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Ian Lim · October 10th, 2008, 11:32 PM

Any review or input would be highly appreciated!

ikancorp.com: iLED 100 Light Kit

Dan Keaton · October 11th, 2008, 07:31 AM

This looks very interesting.

I too would be interested in any comments on this light.

Charles Papert · October 11th, 2008, 09:14 AM

It would be nice if they had included photometrics in the specs (pretty standard for a lighting unit) so it could be compared to existing products in the market. Also the specs list that it operates from 7.2v to 12v, and is compatible via P-tap with full-size batteries. Those are a nominal 14.4v and can output as much as 17v when fresh of the charger, so it would be good to know if the unit can handle that.

With the included CTO gels it's safe to assume that it outputs 5600K natively, but again this would be good to show in the specs.

Bill Pryor · October 11th, 2008, 09:54 AM

It's only 6" wide, so it's just an on camera light, although there often are situations where it would be useful to hide a small light like that on a set.

Peter Szilveszter · October 14th, 2008, 11:32 PM

Ian

I bought one of these about 6 months ago in Australia. It's very reliable and lighting distance of about 1.5 its very good before it starts getting pretty weak, (this is using it at wedding receptions) I can't give any tech specs yet as I haven't really done extensive tests.

Only proper test I did is power usage, with the bigger Sony battery the light stayed on for about 5 hours straight at full power so definitely lasts a long time. I also use some gels to make the light a bit warmer to match the reception lighting so the strength isn't as strong. The dimmer works great too.

I can only compare to the PAG C6 as that's the only other light I've used properly on the field and in comparison the Ikan has no hotspot which is great and the light strength in short distances is about the same but the Pag could throw about 2m and still be effective.

I'll have to posts some stills maybe to give you an idea.

in the meanwhile in this highlight http://www.vimeo.com/1151720 you can see its effectiveness during the few shots of the waltz

Ian Lim · October 15th, 2008, 12:04 AM

Wow thanks a lot Peter! Will buy one for sure!

Dan Brockett · October 15th, 2008, 07:55 AM

Ian:

This looks like a really interesting light. I would question color temp, CRI and build quality, it can't be that great at the price. But the VidLEDs have not been available for ages, the LitePanels DV kits work well but are over $1,000.00 and the smaller LitePanels is built really poorly so this might be a viable contender.

I would be interested to know what happens with this light if you drop it or accidentally whack it into something. I suspect it may be a disposable product. But if you baby it, it might me usable.

Dan

Ian Lim · October 15th, 2008, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Brockett

Ian:

I would be interested to know what happens with this light if you drop it or accidentally whack it into something. I suspect it may be a disposable product. But if you baby it, it might me usable.

Dan

Guess we have to ask Peter again about that issue =D

Don Miller · December 26th, 2008, 02:15 PM

This product is as close to litepanel I've seen.
I think the question is it comparable to the LP Micro or Mini
If it's a redo of the micro, it's the same price and not too interesting. But it looks closer to the mini, which is much more expensive.

The LP price is high relative to component cost and they will have competitors. It's just a basic assembly of commodity components. A 12v LED light bulb with the large 10mm leds and similar output to the micro can be purchased for $10.

I hope Ikan build larger lightstand models. I will buy a lot of these things once the price isn't stupid.

As far as the Sima, get the "20" model, not the '10'. The 10 is weak. The issue with the Sima is no dimmer. Gels can be easily taped on the front. Almost no heat with LCD. Also, BH's price on Sima is very high.

Dan Brockett · December 29th, 2008, 12:02 AM

I spoke with the VIDLed guy and he says that they will be back with a new aluminum housing fixture sometime in the next month or so. If VIDLed keeps their word and does come back, that should be great for all of us.

Dan

Don Miller · December 29th, 2008, 07:56 AM

Any indication of light output? The number of companies selling lights without complete specs amazes me.

Ned Soltz · December 29th, 2008, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Miller

Any indication of light output? The number of companies selling lights without complete specs amazes me.

I have a relationship with the company owner since I've reviewed one of their products for the magazine in the past. I'll ping him and see if I can get any additional info.

Ned Soltz

Charles Papert · December 29th, 2008, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Miller

Any indication of light output? The number of companies selling lights without complete specs amazes me.

Pretty basic notion, isn't it (and one that has been an established industry standard for a long time).

M. Paul El-Darwish · December 30th, 2008, 12:58 PM

No reason panel style lights can't use a mix of LED's Amber & White to allow for nuanced CRI/Color temp output. based on the pictures, the interstitial space can be used to accommodate the amber emitters. Also, 5mm Nichia type emitters are a bit passé. I wanna see Seoul P4's and P7's ganged up in arrays.

Kan Yeung · January 6th, 2009, 11:37 PM

Don't let the price fool you. We always believe that our products is the features you need, the price you want. I will back it up with money back guarteen. If some any reason that you don't like our light, I will give you full money back within 15 days as long as you are honest and not just using our light for your occassion and return back to me after you use it. Send me a private message if you want this offer

Kan Yeung

October 10th, 2008, 11:32 PM	#1
Ian Lim Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 178	Ikan iLED Any review or input would be highly appreciated! ikancorp.com: iLED 100 Light Kit

October 11th, 2008, 07:31 AM	#2
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	This looks very interesting. I too would be interested in any comments on this light. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

October 11th, 2008, 09:14 AM	#3
Charles Papert Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,810	It would be nice if they had included photometrics in the specs (pretty standard for a lighting unit) so it could be compared to existing products in the market. Also the specs list that it operates from 7.2v to 12v, and is compatible via P-tap with full-size batteries. Those are a nominal 14.4v and can output as much as 17v when fresh of the charger, so it would be good to know if the unit can handle that. With the included CTO gels it's safe to assume that it outputs 5600K natively, but again this would be good to show in the specs. __________________ Charles Papert www.charlespapert.com

October 14th, 2008, 11:32 PM	#5
Peter Szilveszter Major Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Yeppoon, Queensland Posts: 332	Ian I bought one of these about 6 months ago in Australia. It's very reliable and lighting distance of about 1.5 its very good before it starts getting pretty weak, (this is using it at wedding receptions) I can't give any tech specs yet as I haven't really done extensive tests. Only proper test I did is power usage, with the bigger Sony battery the light stayed on for about 5 hours straight at full power so definitely lasts a long time. I also use some gels to make the light a bit warmer to match the reception lighting so the strength isn't as strong. The dimmer works great too. I can only compare to the PAG C6 as that's the only other light I've used properly on the field and in comparison the Ikan has no hotspot which is great and the light strength in short distances is about the same but the Pag could throw about 2m and still be effective. I'll have to posts some stills maybe to give you an idea. in the meanwhile in this highlight http://www.vimeo.com/1151720 you can see its effectiveness during the few shots of the waltz __________________ www.livinglens.com.au \| www.livinglens.com.au/blog

January 6th, 2009, 11:37 PM	#15
Kan Yeung Sponsor: MicroSearch, iKan Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Houston Posts: 7	iKan iLED light kit Don't let the price fool you. We always believe that our products is the features you need, the price you want. I will back it up with money back guarteen. If some any reason that you don't like our light, I will give you full money back within 15 days as long as you are honest and not just using our light for your occassion and return back to me after you use it. Send me a private message if you want this offer Kan Yeung

October 11th, 2008, 09:54 AM	#4
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	It's only 6" wide, so it's just an on camera light, although there often are situations where it would be useful to hide a small light like that on a set.

October 15th, 2008, 12:04 AM	#6
Ian Lim Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 178	Wow thanks a lot Peter! Will buy one for sure!

October 15th, 2008, 07:55 AM	#7
Dan Brockett Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 2,109	Ian: This looks like a really interesting light. I would question color temp, CRI and build quality, it can't be that great at the price. But the VidLEDs have not been available for ages, the LitePanels DV kits work well but are over $1,000.00 and the smaller LitePanels is built really poorly so this might be a viable contender. I would be interested to know what happens with this light if you drop it or accidentally whack it into something. I suspect it may be a disposable product. But if you baby it, it might me usable. Dan

December 26th, 2008, 02:15 PM	#9
Don Miller Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 706	This product is as close to litepanel I've seen. I think the question is it comparable to the LP Micro or Mini If it's a redo of the micro, it's the same price and not too interesting. But it looks closer to the mini, which is much more expensive. The LP price is high relative to component cost and they will have competitors. It's just a basic assembly of commodity components. A 12v LED light bulb with the large 10mm leds and similar output to the micro can be purchased for $10. I hope Ikan build larger lightstand models. I will buy a lot of these things once the price isn't stupid. As far as the Sima, get the "20" model, not the '10'. The 10 is weak. The issue with the Sima is no dimmer. Gels can be easily taped on the front. Almost no heat with LCD. Also, BH's price on Sima is very high.

December 29th, 2008, 12:02 AM	#10
Dan Brockett Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 2,109	I spoke with the VIDLed guy and he says that they will be back with a new aluminum housing fixture sometime in the next month or so. If VIDLed keeps their word and does come back, that should be great for all of us. Dan

December 29th, 2008, 07:56 AM	#11
Don Miller Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 706	Any indication of light output? The number of companies selling lights without complete specs amazes me.

December 30th, 2008, 12:58 PM	#14
M. Paul El-Darwish Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Posts: 107	No reason panel style lights can't use a mix of LED's Amber & White to allow for nuanced CRI/Color temp output. based on the pictures, the interstitial space can be used to accommodate the amber emitters. Also, 5mm Nichia type emitters are a bit passé. I wanna see Seoul P4's and P7's ganged up in arrays.