XL1-s Montage

John Steele · August 13th, 2003, 03:49 AM

How are you guys using WM9, is it by using the WM9 Encoder or do you encode straight from your NLE. I want to do it straight from premiere but can't seem to figure out how. Any ideas? What do I need to install?

John.

John Locke · August 13th, 2003, 04:19 AM

The big difference I think is whether the viewer can't or won't view the film. I can't think of a situation where anyone...PC or Mac...can't view a Quicktime file by simply downloading the most recent update of the free player. If they choose not to, then "won't" is the reason. But in the case of Windows Media 9, Mac OSX users simply "can't" download anything to view it. True...the percentage of Mac users is tiny compared to PCs...but I think you'd be surprised how large a number of people that tiny percentage translates to. Also, Mac users tend to be more media hungry users...whereas the percentage of PC users includes quite a few users that use them for business purposes only and don't care about media capabilities.

Sure...Windows Media 9 is good as is Quicktime. Which is better is subject to debate. And either way, both are excellent so any debate is splitting hairs. What isn't subject to debate is the fact that one excludes viewers while the other doesn't.

Anyway...I'd be very grateful if you'd also offer a Quicktime version, if at all possible. Or at least a fallback version of the Windows Media version that doesn't require 9.

Brandt Ryan · August 13th, 2003, 05:33 AM

I used a bitrate of around 500kb -- you should see the clip at 5000kb! I resized the clip in half, and also deinterlaced for playback on computer. That's about it, really.

Brandt Ryan · August 13th, 2003, 10:51 AM

I made a quicktime file to post--but it ended up being 133mb--and I don't have any bandwidth left for the month--though I'm thinking of getting a site to stream with. Also, the quality of the 133mb quicktime file pales in comparison to the 12mb windows media player 9 series, if you can believe that. I'm sure I could get it to look better--as the movie trailers at quictime.com look fantastic--just don't know how--though I choosing the best quality switches on the quicktime export.

<<<-- Originally posted by John Locke : The big difference I think is whether the viewer can't or won't view the film. I can't think of a situation where anyone...PC or Mac...can't view a Quicktime file by simply downloading the most recent update of the free player. If they choose not to, then "won't" is the reason. But in the case of Windows Media 9, Mac OSX users simply "can't" download anything to view it. True...the percentage of Mac users is tiny compared to PCs...but I think you'd be surprised how large a number of people that tiny percentage translates to. Also, Mac users tend to be more media hungry users...whereas the percentage of PC users includes quite a few users that use them for business purposes only and don't care about media capabilities.

Sure...Windows Media 9 is good as is Quicktime. Which is better is subject to debate. And either way, both are excellent so any debate is splitting hairs. What isn't subject to debate is the fact that one excludes viewers while the other doesn't.

Anyway...I'd be very grateful if you'd also offer a Quicktime version, if at all possible. Or at least a fallback version of the Windows Media version that doesn't require 9. -->>>

August 13th, 2003, 04:19 AM	#17
John Locke Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 2,882	The big difference I think is whether the viewer can't or won't view the film. I can't think of a situation where anyone...PC or Mac...can't view a Quicktime file by simply downloading the most recent update of the free player. If they choose not to, then "won't" is the reason. But in the case of Windows Media 9, Mac OSX users simply "can't" download anything to view it. True...the percentage of Mac users is tiny compared to PCs...but I think you'd be surprised how large a number of people that tiny percentage translates to. Also, Mac users tend to be more media hungry users...whereas the percentage of PC users includes quite a few users that use them for business purposes only and don't care about media capabilities. Sure...Windows Media 9 is good as is Quicktime. Which is better is subject to debate. And either way, both are excellent so any debate is splitting hairs. What isn't subject to debate is the fact that one excludes viewers while the other doesn't. Anyway...I'd be very grateful if you'd also offer a Quicktime version, if at all possible. Or at least a fallback version of the Windows Media version that doesn't require 9. __________________ John Locke SursumFilms.com

August 13th, 2003, 05:33 AM	#18
Brandt Ryan Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 25	wmv settings I used a bitrate of around 500kb -- you should see the clip at 5000kb! I resized the clip in half, and also deinterlaced for playback on computer. That's about it, really.

August 13th, 2003, 03:49 AM	#16
John Steele Major Player Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Scotland, UK Posts: 216	How are you guys using WM9, is it by using the WM9 Encoder or do you encode straight from your NLE. I want to do it straight from premiere but can't seem to figure out how. Any ideas? What do I need to install? John.

August 13th, 2003, 10:51 AM	#19
Brandt Ryan Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 25	I made a quicktime file to post--but it ended up being 133mb--and I don't have any bandwidth left for the month--though I'm thinking of getting a site to stream with. Also, the quality of the 133mb quicktime file pales in comparison to the 12mb windows media player 9 series, if you can believe that. I'm sure I could get it to look better--as the movie trailers at quictime.com look fantastic--just don't know how--though I choosing the best quality switches on the quicktime export. <<<-- Originally posted by John Locke : The big difference I think is whether the viewer can't or won't view the film. I can't think of a situation where anyone...PC or Mac...can't view a Quicktime file by simply downloading the most recent update of the free player. If they choose not to, then "won't" is the reason. But in the case of Windows Media 9, Mac OSX users simply "can't" download anything to view it. True...the percentage of Mac users is tiny compared to PCs...but I think you'd be surprised how large a number of people that tiny percentage translates to. Also, Mac users tend to be more media hungry users...whereas the percentage of PC users includes quite a few users that use them for business purposes only and don't care about media capabilities. Sure...Windows Media 9 is good as is Quicktime. Which is better is subject to debate. And either way, both are excellent so any debate is splitting hairs. What isn't subject to debate is the fact that one excludes viewers while the other doesn't. Anyway...I'd be very grateful if you'd also offer a Quicktime version, if at all possible. Or at least a fallback version of the Windows Media version that doesn't require 9. -->>>