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Cliff Totten March 14th, 2014 07:30 AM

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Judging by the last two videos I have seen, rolling shutter doesn't seem as bad as I originally thought. (the instability of the "cat" video on the web made me nervous)

I'd say that rolling shutter on the AX100 might be about the same as a typical DSLR and it seems like it should be reasonably manageable. I think the RX10 does a great job at reducing it.

I suspect that the Jell-O level of the AX100 is really exactly where Sony wants it for the $2,000 price point.

Remember that Sony wants to keep it's top paying and mid level paying customers far away from this "Handycam". Sony wants those customer's money to go into upper models. And for those, Sony will reduce the rolling shutter Jell-O. (yes, Sony will make you pay extra for that)

Some people call that "conspiracy theory". It's really not. It's how these cameras are designed and market planned right from the initial blue print phase. It's nothing new,...car companies do that every year with all their models. They all slice and dice features between their models very very carefully and then up-sell you. It's done by ALL the camera companies and a crucial part of their success.

I'm excited to pick up the AX100. My only thoughts now are what Sony has has planned in a couple weeks for NAB. We are certainly going to get more cameras announced.

What will they add to the possible AX100 "pro" big brother? XLR handle for sure,...but what else? Sony will need to add about $1000 more features to the cost of the AX100.

It's been a very interesting year already.

CT

Ken Ross March 14th, 2014 07:40 AM

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Clips are beginning to show up. This was apparently shot at dusk, so lighting wasn't good. Still, not bad.


Ken Ross March 14th, 2014 07:44 AM

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Very nice detail, but this one illustrates my concern regarding the OIS.


Ken Ross March 14th, 2014 07:54 AM

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One more, outdoors with a kitty:


Joey Atilano March 14th, 2014 07:56 AM

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This guys videos all have some sort of twisting wobble as he walks.

Joey Atilano March 14th, 2014 08:04 AM

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Another thing is that none of these videos look as sharp at 1080p as the french cat video. It will still be great for how I shoot. I'll shoot anything action in 1080 60p and the tripod stuff at 4k. I want to see how goot the still you can pull from 4K video too. I want mine now !!!

I'm hoping to get some macro shots in 4K like this one from my old TM90

Doug Tessler March 14th, 2014 08:08 AM

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he is not walking he is riding his bike you cn hear the tires on the pavement :)

Joey Atilano March 14th, 2014 08:09 AM

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Finally Nightshot ! I miss this feature on all my camping trips. I was just thinking I'll be out camping with it in 4K mode and I'll see bigfoot and my footage will be more shaky than the Patterson film lol.

Ken Ross March 14th, 2014 08:18 AM

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Joey, I was actually thinking the opposite. On my display they're razor sharp, perhaps sharper than the French video. But he does have that annoying twist as he walks. It may be his particular gait. I've never been much good with 'walking videos' either as they never really look like what you'd get from a Glidecam.

Here's another of his...very sharp:


Joey Atilano March 14th, 2014 08:34 AM

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You know what Ken I'm watching these at work on a crappy PC monitor so I'm sure that's a huge difference.

Monday Isa March 14th, 2014 08:49 AM

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Does Youtube still do their post-processing image stabilization? I think that maybe what I've seen pronounced in this cat video that was just posted and the kitchen video posted yesterday. The building and the road shots didn't show any sorts of weird motion/severe rolling shutter. Will get mine next week. Can't wait to play with it.

Jan Vanhoecke March 14th, 2014 09:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Ross (Post 1836910)
Joey, I was actually thinking the opposite. On my display they're razor sharp, perhaps sharper than the French video. But he does have that annoying twist as he walks. It may be his particular gait. I've never been much good with 'walking videos' either as they never really look like what you'd get from a Glidecam.

Here's another of his...very sharp:

FDR-AX100 ?????????? 3 - YouTube

Look at the tarmac in the street @ 0:15 till 0:20 sec in full screen....something weird going on there....

Ken Ross March 14th, 2014 09:26 AM

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Jan, not seeing anything out of the ordinary on my monitor.

Ken Ross March 14th, 2014 09:34 AM

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Here's a more stabile walking video and it's also done at night. It looks like the AX100 has accurate focusing without hunting, even though it may not be the fastest. Also nice detail at night.


Ken Ross March 14th, 2014 10:29 AM

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One more. Very nice detail with some beautiful colors in the distance.



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