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Uli Mors · December 3rd, 2007, 10:50 AM

Hi,

1st: I am not a FCP user - so this question goes out to everybody using XDCAM HD + FCP.

is there a method to provide an FCP User the proxies (lets say on a dvd) of an XDCAM HD Disk for later (automatic) copy the hd files?

(e.g. editing the proxies and bring in the disk later to exchange the proxies agains HD files)

I´d like to shoot some footage, copy XYZ to a dvd and send it to an FCP studio instead of the disk. I´ll bring in the disk later myself - but like the editor to start already...

?

Thanks

ULi

Andy Mees · December 4th, 2007, 12:29 AM

Uli

it is possible BUT the workflow is so convoluted it is not at all practicable

Mike Watson · December 4th, 2007, 01:33 AM

Here I was about to ponder on for two paragraphs about it, and Andy just sums it up in a sentence. As the kids say -- I LOL'd.

Besides, what use would those proxy files be anyhow? Just to keep your entire XDCam library (via proxy) on your hard drive to drop in to any project at any time. Between the great minds at Apple and the great minds at Sony, it'd probably take a whole afternoon to add that code to either FCP or the XDCam transfer software.

Excuse my frustration.

Uli Mors · December 4th, 2007, 02:47 AM

The idea was to avoid bring in a bunch of XDCAM disks to another studio (I am cooperating with) within the 1st step of a project - they do not own a XDCAM HD recorder.

The studio is not in my neighbourhood , so I´d like to give them proxies (on DVDs) first...

Looks like this won´t work with FCP...

THanks

ULi

Andy Mees · December 4th, 2007, 04:42 AM

heres the deal as I see it, Uli

in XDCAM Transfer you select the disc, at left, then choose Clip > Export Proxy Movies to Folder... (select the destination and press OK)

then download Audio Track Batcher from http://www.davidheidelberger.com/software.html

drop all those clips you just exported on to the Audio Track Batcher tool and it will quickly strip out all but the first 2 tracks of audio from all of those clips

ok, you should now be able to edit with these proxies in FCP (you can set up a custom sequence setting for them, or just use OfflineRT HD which seems to work well in Unlimited RT)
when you need to online/upres you have to import all of the high res media, change the sequence preset to the full res codec, and reconnect the clips to the high res originals

there is no way to bring in only what high res is needed for the edit as Apple/Sony don't provide this level of XDCAM integration in FCP, Sony does not allow one to import/export logging data to the Mac version of XDCAM Transfer, and they've not opened XDCAM Transfer to 3rd parties either (or we'd have done it ourselves!)

Uli Mors · December 4th, 2007, 10:34 AM

Hi Andy,

thanks for the post. I´ll have a look on it!

ULI

Alister Chapman · December 5th, 2007, 03:44 PM

Why not just copy the entire disks to a USB or Firewire hard drive. Put each disk in a separate folder and hand that over to the editor.

Uli Mors · December 6th, 2007, 02:04 AM

Hi Alister,

I thought to come away with only sending some DVDs (and not copying whole XDCAM Disks..) with the proxies on it.

Looks like we will shoot a lot of footage in the future - and I wanted to have the Editor have a rough look on the footage and select some scenes before bringing in the HD files.

If this is not possible, I will take the time and copy these disks to Harddrive...

Thanks

ULI

December 3rd, 2007, 10:50 AM	#1
Uli Mors Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 565	FCP Users Hi, 1st: I am not a FCP user - so this question goes out to everybody using XDCAM HD + FCP. is there a method to provide an FCP User the proxies (lets say on a dvd) of an XDCAM HD Disk for later (automatic) copy the hd files? (e.g. editing the proxies and bring in the disk later to exchange the proxies agains HD files) I´d like to shoot some footage, copy XYZ to a dvd and send it to an FCP studio instead of the disk. I´ll bring in the disk later myself - but like the editor to start already... ? Thanks ULi

December 5th, 2007, 03:44 PM	#7
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	Why not just copy the entire disks to a USB or Firewire hard drive. Put each disk in a separate folder and hand that over to the editor. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

December 4th, 2007, 12:29 AM	#2
Andy Mees Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 645	Uli it is possible BUT the workflow is so convoluted it is not at all practicable

December 4th, 2007, 01:33 AM	#3
Mike Watson Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,082	Here I was about to ponder on for two paragraphs about it, and Andy just sums it up in a sentence. As the kids say -- I LOL'd. Besides, what use would those proxy files be anyhow? Just to keep your entire XDCam library (via proxy) on your hard drive to drop in to any project at any time. Between the great minds at Apple and the great minds at Sony, it'd probably take a whole afternoon to add that code to either FCP or the XDCam transfer software. Excuse my frustration.

December 4th, 2007, 02:47 AM	#4
Uli Mors Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 565	The idea was to avoid bring in a bunch of XDCAM disks to another studio (I am cooperating with) within the 1st step of a project - they do not own a XDCAM HD recorder. The studio is not in my neighbourhood , so I´d like to give them proxies (on DVDs) first... Looks like this won´t work with FCP... THanks ULi

December 4th, 2007, 04:42 AM	#5
Andy Mees Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 645	heres the deal as I see it, Uli in XDCAM Transfer you select the disc, at left, then choose Clip > Export Proxy Movies to Folder... (select the destination and press OK) then download Audio Track Batcher from http://www.davidheidelberger.com/software.html drop all those clips you just exported on to the Audio Track Batcher tool and it will quickly strip out all but the first 2 tracks of audio from all of those clips ok, you should now be able to edit with these proxies in FCP (you can set up a custom sequence setting for them, or just use OfflineRT HD which seems to work well in Unlimited RT) when you need to online/upres you have to import all of the high res media, change the sequence preset to the full res codec, and reconnect the clips to the high res originals there is no way to bring in only what high res is needed for the edit as Apple/Sony don't provide this level of XDCAM integration in FCP, Sony does not allow one to import/export logging data to the Mac version of XDCAM Transfer, and they've not opened XDCAM Transfer to 3rd parties either (or we'd have done it ourselves!)

December 4th, 2007, 10:34 AM	#6
Uli Mors Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 565	Hi Andy, thanks for the post. I´ll have a look on it! ULI

December 6th, 2007, 02:04 AM	#8
Uli Mors Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 565	Hi Alister, I thought to come away with only sending some DVDs (and not copying whole XDCAM Disks..) with the proxies on it. Looks like we will shoot a lot of footage in the future - and I wanted to have the Editor have a rough look on the footage and select some scenes before bringing in the HD files. If this is not possible, I will take the time and copy these disks to Harddrive... Thanks ULI