Fuji or Canon? at DVinfo.net

Vincent Rozenberg · November 14th, 2006, 04:20 PM

Dear forum members; very simple question, the Canon KH20x6.4 KRS or the Fujinon HSs18x5.5? The main purpose is ENG work. I do not desire a strict answer for this, but try to find out the pros and cons of both lenses.

Thanks in advance!

Chris Hurd · November 14th, 2006, 06:45 PM

The answer seems clear enough in the nomenclature... the Fuji has the wider angle and the Canon has the longer telephoto. Which one is more important to you?

Michael Knight · November 15th, 2006, 03:01 AM

Having once been a news stringer I can see more than the wide angle/zoom considerations here.

I have found the Fujinon HSs18x5.5BRM to be pretty awesome in many respects, but I'd suggest you check out some of the lens test threads on this forum before you make a final choice, since it seems some cameramen have found distortions which needed to be dealt with in this lens - and you'll find a few comparisons between the Canon and Fujinon offerings as well.

Plus there are those who are apparently able to use SD lenses and get good results

Having said that, this lens is very good in tight spots (such as small interview areas) - and as big TV screens begin to become more popular, I lean toward more wide shots than telephoto, simply because any jitters at the long end are going to be a lot more obvious on a big screen.

There might also be features on the Fujinon that you could be paying dearly for - and not necessarily find useful (depending on the sort of ENG assignments you do most of the time). So look at the sales pitch and the specs very carefully.

Michael Knight

Rob Stiff · November 15th, 2006, 10:59 AM

Vincent

I have both 350L & 330Ls & both Canon KH20x6.4 KRS &
KH19x6.7 KAS lenses. I can't comment on the Fujinon lens; as I don't have it.
But, I would say if you are just wanting to do Electronic New Gathering
stuff, then the 330L W/ Canon KH19.6.7x6.7 KAS lens is not only
to best (lowest cost) value, also will do a fantastic job.

Vincent Rozenberg · December 29th, 2006, 01:30 AM

Bit of a late reply; Thanks for the response! I went with the Canon for now. It will do the job and to me it seems as a reasonable entry lens, keeping the option open to grow in with the arsenal.

Greg Boston · December 29th, 2006, 12:21 PM

A good ENG option.

There is a version of the better quality HS18x5.5 with a built in extender.

http://www.fujinonbroadcast.com/cgi-...ucts.cgi?p=356

Many times I wish I had that 2X in my lens, especially when trying to get wildlife up to full frame.

-gb-

Morton Molyneux · December 29th, 2006, 08:56 PM

I agree Greg, The Fuji HS18X5.5BERM with 2X extender is a good combination. When I ordered my F350 back in June my dealer told me Fuji were bringing out the 2X version. It took 3 months for the lens to arrive but it was well worth the wait.

cheers

Morton

November 14th, 2006, 04:20 PM	#1
Vincent Rozenberg Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Rotterdam, The Netherlands Posts: 475	Fuji or Canon? Dear forum members; very simple question, the Canon KH20x6.4 KRS or the Fujinon HSs18x5.5? The main purpose is ENG work. I do not desire a strict answer for this, but try to find out the pros and cons of both lenses. Thanks in advance!

November 14th, 2006, 06:45 PM	#2
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	The answer seems clear enough in the nomenclature... the Fuji has the wider angle and the Canon has the longer telephoto. Which one is more important to you? __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

November 15th, 2006, 03:01 AM	#3
Michael Knight Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mossyrock Wa USA Posts: 65	Having once been a news stringer I can see more than the wide angle/zoom considerations here. I have found the Fujinon HSs18x5.5BRM to be pretty awesome in many respects, but I'd suggest you check out some of the lens test threads on this forum before you make a final choice, since it seems some cameramen have found distortions which needed to be dealt with in this lens - and you'll find a few comparisons between the Canon and Fujinon offerings as well. Plus there are those who are apparently able to use SD lenses and get good results Having said that, this lens is very good in tight spots (such as small interview areas) - and as big TV screens begin to become more popular, I lean toward more wide shots than telephoto, simply because any jitters at the long end are going to be a lot more obvious on a big screen. There might also be features on the Fujinon that you could be paying dearly for - and not necessarily find useful (depending on the sort of ENG assignments you do most of the time). So look at the sales pitch and the specs very carefully. Michael Knight __________________ All media since 1960. Formerly CP16/Nagra. Currently learning F350/Fujinon HSs18 x 5.5BRM, Mac G5 Quad and FCP Studio.

November 15th, 2006, 10:59 AM	#4
Rob Stiff Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 173	Vincent I have both 350L & 330Ls & both Canon KH20x6.4 KRS & KH19x6.7 KAS lenses. I can't comment on the Fujinon lens; as I don't have it. But, I would say if you are just wanting to do Electronic New Gathering stuff, then the 330L W/ Canon KH19.6.7x6.7 KAS lens is not only to best (lowest cost) value, also will do a fantastic job.

December 29th, 2006, 01:30 AM	#5
Vincent Rozenberg Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Rotterdam, The Netherlands Posts: 475	Bit of a late reply; Thanks for the response! I went with the Canon for now. It will do the job and to me it seems as a reasonable entry lens, keeping the option open to grow in with the arsenal.

December 29th, 2006, 12:21 PM	#6
Greg Boston Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DFW area, TX Posts: 6,117 Images: 1	A good ENG option. There is a version of the better quality HS18x5.5 with a built in extender. http://www.fujinonbroadcast.com/cgi-...ucts.cgi?p=356 Many times I wish I had that 2X in my lens, especially when trying to get wildlife up to full frame. -gb-

December 29th, 2006, 08:56 PM	#7
Morton Molyneux Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada Posts: 98	I agree Greg, The Fuji HS18X5.5BERM with 2X extender is a good combination. When I ordered my F350 back in June my dealer told me Fuji were bringing out the 2X version. It took 3 months for the lens to arrive but it was well worth the wait. cheers Morton