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Ray Bell July 27th, 2007 04:43 PM

Cineform now supports XDCAM HD
 
Cineform released new builds of the Cineform Intermediate Software today...

go to Cineform.com for more info....

Bob Armstrong July 30th, 2007 02:15 PM

Fantastic. If anyone gets their hands on this, let us know how it works.

Thomas Smet July 30th, 2007 06:10 PM

What exactly is the advantage to editing XDCAM HD with Cineform? With HDV it all kind of made sense because the tape had to get captured anyway. The conversion could happen during capture so it didn't take any extra time compared to what would normally be done with a HDV tape.

One of the advantages to XDCAM HD is instant editing of the footage or quickly moving it to a hard drive to edit. It almost seems like a step backwards and a move away from one of the things that makes XDCAM HD great. It would be like bringing back capturing all over again.

There is still the fact that Cineform puts less load on your cpu but how many people shooting with XDCAM HD are using weak homebuilt systems?

I love Cineform and think it is perfect for situations when you need to capture either from tape or live but I'm not sure if I see as big of an advantage for XDCAM HD.

Bart Walczak July 31st, 2007 02:00 AM

The main advantage is that you can finally edit XDCAM HD on Premiere...

Tip McPartland July 31st, 2007 02:15 AM

Cineform's other advantages
 
Well, you can edit XDCAM HD in Premiere now using the MainConcept MPEG2 plug-in, but is it ever kludgy. It does some really strange things sometimes when you're trying to trim a clip -- like suddenly give you a completely different section of footage from way before or way later in the raw clip.

On my system, Cineform gives HD playback via a Matrox Parhelia's component output, and the picture is beautiful. MainConcept does not do this and playback is not just SD via a firewire device but UGLY with totally oversaturated colors. Also MainConcept timeline performance is horrendous.

Cineform also does something very cool: it takes my 1440 x 1080 4:2:0 and makes it 1920 x 1080 4:2:2. It does this with a very smart interpolation routine that really creates intermediate pixels. I haven't done this with XDCAM HD yet, but it works awesomely with my HVR-V1U. This comes in handy when burning Blu-rays because the Roxio software I use doesn't always seem to get the overall aspect ratio right when fed 1440.

I know it will take some serious time to convert the files, already found that out with the V1, but I think it will be worth it.

Tip

Gerson Becker July 31st, 2007 10:35 AM

Not Working
 
I donwloaded Aspect and Prospect, tried in three diferent XP SP2, and canīt put to work.
Seems they forget to upgrade from 5.0.3 to 5.0.4.
Anyone have sucess?

Thomas Smet July 31st, 2007 11:51 AM

I never realized Premiere didn't support XDCAM HD. Huh. Well then I guess it is usefull for Premiere users.

Bart Walczak August 1st, 2007 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tip McPartland (Post 721033)
Well, you can edit XDCAM HD in Premiere now using the MainConcept MPEG2 plug-in, but is it ever kludgy.

Yes, unless you have Blackmagic Multibridge as your output and ingest card, when it basically doesn't work at all (tried and tested). Besides, the plug-in is the same price as Aspect HD.


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