Hvr-hd1000u in low light?

Tiago Cardoso · February 8th, 2008, 05:45 AM

Hi guys.

I'm trying to give some VIDEO information about the performance of this camera under low light using a HVL-20DW2 light in it.

This video is not compressed at all and shows a situation in a child party ("happy birthday to you... but in Portuguese!) where all lights were turned off and the only light here is the on coming from the HVL-20DW2 (that is 20W).

The video speaks for itself. I would like to hear what you guys think about it.

http://rapidshare.com/files/87393768...20dw2.m2t.html

See you soon. Hope I can help in someway.

Asaf Benatia · February 8th, 2008, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiago Cardoso

Hi guys.

I'm trying to give some VIDEO information about the performance of this camera under low light using a HVL-20DW2 light in it.

This video is not compressed at all and shows a situation in a child party ("happy birthday to you... but in Portuguese!) where all lights were turned off and the only light here is the on coming from the HVL-20DW2 (that is 20W).

The video speaks for itself. I would like to hear what you guys think about it.

http://rapidshare.com/files/87393768...20dw2.m2t.html

See you soon. Hope I can help in someway.

thanks for the replay.

i think it kinda noise...

what you ppl think?

Asaf Benatia · February 13th, 2008, 07:24 AM

anyone?
it's kinda important to me... i don't know if i should buy this camcorder...

Martin Labelle · February 13th, 2008, 08:23 AM

hello

I have watch all your video on youtube, and I think the quality is very good(upload)
And the 030108 si very good only the music I did not like.
Just remember the 1000u is not a sensitive camera(I use the A1U same category but in concert).I would go for FX1 or Z1 or for almost the same price as 1000u a used canon GL2.
and imagine if one day you want to put an adaptor like brevis and lose even more light.

I don't understand why you want change what is already good on you video.
Maybe make the 1000u a B camera, but you will not be close to what a Fx1 or Z1 can do.
or Make do with what you got!

Adam Gold · February 13th, 2008, 01:44 PM

I just shot some fairly low-light stuff backstage at a musical production. Under the worklights the cam added between 9 and 18dB gain. At 15-18 dB the grain was very noticeable. I think most people would consider this "unusable" for HDV, but if you like that "filmic" grainy look you may think it is fine. Color fidelity was fine.

At 9-12 dB the grain is there but you have to look for it. It is mostly visible in dark mid-tones, not in the blacks.

At 6dB and below it is not noticeable at all. Very clear, crisp HDV images, and very quick and accurate autofocus.

Here the HD1000U is half the price of an FX1, and performs admirably for the price. I have both and I think I'll need to turn sharpness and color up on the FX1 and down on the HD1000U to get them to match.

Asaf Benatia · February 16th, 2008, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam Gold

I just shot some fairly low-light stuff backstage at a musical production. Under the worklights the cam added between 9 and 18dB gain. At 15-18 dB the grain was very noticeable. I think most people would consider this "unusable" for HDV, but if you like that "filmic" grainy look you may think it is fine. Color fidelity was fine.

At 9-12 dB the grain is there but you have to look for it. It is mostly visible in dark mid-tones, not in the blacks.

At 6dB and below it is not noticeable at all. Very clear, crisp HDV images, and very quick and accurate autofocus.

Here the HD1000U is half the price of an FX1, and performs admirably for the price. I have both and I think I'll need to turn sharpness and color up on the FX1 and down on the HD1000U to get them to match.

Hi
Thanks for the replay,
can you post some video for me to see?
(in low light offcourse)
and did you use on camera video light?

Asaf Benatia · February 17th, 2008, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asaf Benatia

Hi
Thanks for the replay,
can you post some video for me to see?
(in low light offcourse)
and did you use on camera video light?

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Adam Gold · February 18th, 2008, 02:33 PM

My video PC is down right now, and I don't think posted video is much help because so much depends on your player and PC. And stills are even less indicative. The only way to really tell is to play back the tape directly to an HDTV via a digital interface such as DVI or HDMI.

Best bet is just try some test shooting before the big events and see how you like it.

I did not use any additional lighting.

Hope this helps,

ag

Asaf Benatia · February 20th, 2008, 12:42 PM

in the brochure it sayis

Auto Slow ShutterON - 5 lux (1/30 shutter)
Auto Slow ShutterOFF - 11 lux (1/30 shutter)

what does it say's about the low light?

Asaf Benatia · February 21st, 2008, 03:26 AM

and if someone knows what is it signal-to-noise ratio?

February 8th, 2008, 05:45 AM	#16
Tiago Cardoso New Boot Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brasilia, Brazil Posts: 11	Low light and 20DW2 Hi guys. I'm trying to give some VIDEO information about the performance of this camera under low light using a HVL-20DW2 light in it. This video is not compressed at all and shows a situation in a child party ("happy birthday to you... but in Portuguese!) where all lights were turned off and the only light here is the on coming from the HVL-20DW2 (that is 20W). The video speaks for itself. I would like to hear what you guys think about it. http://rapidshare.com/files/87393768...20dw2.m2t.html See you soon. Hope I can help in someway.

February 13th, 2008, 07:24 AM	#18
Asaf Benatia Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Beer Sheva Posts: 54	anyone? it's kinda important to me... i don't know if i should buy this camcorder...

February 13th, 2008, 08:23 AM	#19
Martin Labelle Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: montreal Posts: 170	hello I have watch all your video on youtube, and I think the quality is very good(upload) And the 030108 si very good only the music I did not like. Just remember the 1000u is not a sensitive camera(I use the A1U same category but in concert).I would go for FX1 or Z1 or for almost the same price as 1000u a used canon GL2. and imagine if one day you want to put an adaptor like brevis and lose even more light. I don't understand why you want change what is already good on you video. Maybe make the 1000u a B camera, but you will not be close to what a Fx1 or Z1 can do. or Make do with what you got!

February 13th, 2008, 01:44 PM	#20
Adam Gold Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Woodinville, WA USA Posts: 3,467	I just shot some fairly low-light stuff backstage at a musical production. Under the worklights the cam added between 9 and 18dB gain. At 15-18 dB the grain was very noticeable. I think most people would consider this "unusable" for HDV, but if you like that "filmic" grainy look you may think it is fine. Color fidelity was fine. At 9-12 dB the grain is there but you have to look for it. It is mostly visible in dark mid-tones, not in the blacks. At 6dB and below it is not noticeable at all. Very clear, crisp HDV images, and very quick and accurate autofocus. Here the HD1000U is half the price of an FX1, and performs admirably for the price. I have both and I think I'll need to turn sharpness and color up on the FX1 and down on the HD1000U to get them to match.

February 18th, 2008, 02:33 PM	#23
Adam Gold Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Woodinville, WA USA Posts: 3,467	My video PC is down right now, and I don't think posted video is much help because so much depends on your player and PC. And stills are even less indicative. The only way to really tell is to play back the tape directly to an HDTV via a digital interface such as DVI or HDMI. Best bet is just try some test shooting before the big events and see how you like it. I did not use any additional lighting. Hope this helps, ag

February 20th, 2008, 12:42 PM	#24
Asaf Benatia Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Beer Sheva Posts: 54	in the brochure it sayis Auto Slow ShutterON - 5 lux (1/30 shutter) Auto Slow ShutterOFF - 11 lux (1/30 shutter) what does it say's about the low light?

February 21st, 2008, 03:26 AM	#25
Asaf Benatia Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Beer Sheva Posts: 54	and if someone knows what is it signal-to-noise ratio?