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Andrew Smith May 28th, 2013 10:49 AM

Re: Atomos Ninja and the V1U
 
I think I'll be taking a crack at recording with the 422 setting in the future. Tip of the hat to Jeff.

Andrew

Brian Murphy May 29th, 2013 03:06 PM

Re: Atomos Ninja and the V1U
 
I am sure things will work out fine for you. And my compliments to all as well regarding the record rate. I prefer to stay at that level and have had no issues to date but if you don't need the rate to be that high, why not. There are many debates as to the pros and cons of the 10bit recording of 8it signal. I figure it is what it is. I am a very big fan of Atomos and the Ninja and was not always but found my dealings with the company to be nothing short of excellent. They really support their customers.
Cheers
Brian
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Murphy (Post 1797436)
I use WD Black Scorpion 500 GB drives. They are approved by Atomos and I have never had a shake warning. But as I add drives I will go with Atomos approved SSD drives. I shoot Pro-Res HQ 220Mbits, lots of storage and though the files are large the quality is excellent with the 422 output from the camera, I believe it is 8 bit coming out going to the 10bit record on the Ninja.
Another bonus with the Ninja is it acts as a client monitor too ...B&H say the sunshade will be available in June.
Cheers
Brian


D.J. Ammons May 30th, 2013 10:47 PM

Re: Atomos Ninja and the V1U
 
Fex Ex delivered my WD 500 GB Scorpio Black hard drive this morning then late this afternoon UPS showed up with my Atomos Ninja!

Just had time to shoot a few minutes of a static shot in the living room then took the drive and caddy to my partners home where she edits. Imported footage of Pro Res 422 from the Atomos Ninja / Sony V1 combo into Vegas Pro 11 and then edited it with some Canon XA10 footage. I rendered that to Blu-ray settings and was pleased with the end result. The footage cut well together with only using the FBMN white balance plug in.

When I got home tonight I ordered a second Ninja for my other Sony V1U. I just can't pass up the deal I have found of $345 with no sales tax and free shipping for the original Ninja that is being phased out. It has the full kit with the two batteries and dual charger which is better than the new $695 Ninja 2 Kit that came out this month. I would love to have the much higher resolution monitor of the Ninja 2 but not for twice the money!

Alan Craven May 31st, 2013 01:11 AM

Re: Atomos Ninja and the V1U
 
D J Ammons,

You are lucky! I have just paid £600 for a Ninja 1 in the UK. That must equate to around $900 US.

I could have bought the original Ninja 2 package from the same supplier for less.

To add insult to injury, the UK 13A plug adaptor plate for the battery charger power supply is missing.

On the plus side, it works perfectly with my V1E, including the LANC, using a Manfrotto remote.

I have also located some thin flexible HDMI cables from a firm called Keene. They also offer semi-rigid formable HDMI cables, which could be useful in a permanent set-up.

D.J. Ammons May 31st, 2013 01:18 PM

Re: Atomos Ninja and the V1U
 
Alan, it is interesting that your UK plug adapter was missing just like my USA one was! I emailed Atomos support last night so hope to get a reply today that they are sending me one.

Thankfully in the meantime I can charge the batteries in the Sony V1U camera.

Alan Craven June 2nd, 2013 01:57 AM

Re: Atomos Ninja and the V1U
 
I have started this process with Atomos, who responded very quickly (overnight on Friday, UK time) to an e-mail sent via their web-site. I am now waiting for an RMA.

I did not get such a helpful response from the dealer. I suspect buying a new Ninja 1 at this late date, the unit has probably been used for display or demo at some time and the small adaptor plate has gone missing.

I too am up and running as I had a spare 12V 1A regulated charger to hand. The double Sony charger is a very useful weapon to add to my armoury.

I have got the Ninja to start and stop using a Manfrotto 523Pro remote. The only problem is that I have to use the LANC pass-through to the camera to get power to the 523Pro, and as the VIE requires a tape to be present, I end up recording to tape as well. At least I have nearly 60 unused tapes! I still need to work out a mechanical rig for the system. I intend mounting it at the back of the camera.

For hand held use I have found that connecting a LANC patch-cord between the camera and the Ninja LANC in enables start and stop of the Ninja controlled by the camera record button. So I am thinking of mounting the Ninja in a U shaped cradle under the camera, using the tripod bush to attach it.

I am really not too concerned about the monitoring capabilities of the Ninja. I chose it over the various firewire based recorders due to the enhanced video quality available as the camera compression is by-passed.

Andrew Smith June 2nd, 2013 05:36 AM

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Worst cast scenario, you guys can post your un-used spare to each other. :-)

Andrew

D.J. Ammons June 16th, 2013 09:19 PM

Re: Atomos Ninja and the V1U
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Craven (Post 1798273)
I have started this process with Atomos, who responded very quickly (overnight on Friday, UK time) to an e-mail sent via their web-site. I am now waiting for an RMA.

I did not get such a helpful response from the dealer. I suspect buying a new Ninja 1 at this late date, the unit has probably been used for display or demo at some time and the small adaptor plate has gone missing.

I too am up and running as I had a spare 12V 1A regulated charger to hand. The double Sony charger is a very useful weapon to add to my armoury.

I have got the Ninja to start and stop using a Manfrotto 523Pro remote. The only problem is that I have to use the LANC pass-through to the camera to get power to the 523Pro, and as the VIE requires a tape to be present, I end up recording to tape as well. At least I have nearly 60 unused tapes! I still need to work out a mechanical rig for the system. I intend mounting it at the back of the camera.

For hand held use I have found that connecting a LANC patch-cord between the camera and the Ninja LANC in enables start and stop of the Ninja controlled by the camera record button. So I am thinking of mounting the Ninja in a U shaped cradle under the camera, using the tripod bush to attach it.

I am really not too concerned about the monitoring capabilities of the Ninja. I chose it over the various firewire based recorders due to the enhanced video quality available as the camera compression is by-passed.

Let me know how the U shaped cradle works out and how you made it. I quickly received the AC plug adapter missing from my two new Ninja 1's. I don't think mine were demo units or anything like that because everything appeared to be brand new. I am guessing they don't place the adapter in the case until they know what country it is going to retailed in and somehow some went out in their generic mode without any plug adapter put in the package.

I have only tested the two units I received to make sure they worked but absolutely love them and am excited about extending the life of my two beloved Sony V1U's. Looking forward to not having to worry about changing tapes every hour in those few situations where it causes a pain in editing.

Alan Craven June 16th, 2013 11:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by D.J. Ammons (Post 1800607)
Let me know how the U shaped cradle works out and how you made it. I quickly received the AC plug adapter missing from my two new Ninja 1's. I don't think mine were demo units or anything like that because everything appeared to be brand new. I am guessing they don't place the adapter in the case until they know what country it is going to retailed in and somehow some went out in their generic mode without any plug adapter put in the package.

I have only tested the two units I received to make sure they worked but absolutely love them and am excited about extending the life of my two beloved Sony V1U's. Looking forward to not having to worry about changing tapes every hour in those few situations where it causes a pain in editing.

Still thinking about the cradle, but I have made myself a rail structure to support my Century 2x convertor at the front and the Ninja behind the V1.

I bought a metre length of 15 mm sided U shape aluminium and cut it in half, joining the two by plates of 3 mm Aluminium at front and rear. The camera is mounted on a Manfrotto sliding plate bolted to the top surface, with a long plate to adjust for balance with/without the converter. The mounting plate for my tripod is fixed to the lower surface , held with two screws to an aluminium plate with the lower arm of the U clamped between the two plates, for adjustability.


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