24P Support in Avid Xpress Pro at DVinfo.net

Joseph B. Landeene · February 5th, 2007, 10:08 AM

Does anyone know if Xpress Pro currently supports the V1Us 24P mode? (I guess we know for sure that it can edit the video; the question is, will it be practical for Avid to do the 2:3 pulldown.) I am hoping that Avid either currently does or in the near future will support this natively, perhaps even in the capture mode. If anyone knows of a present workflow for 24A mode in Xpress Pro, I would be very thankful to know. My suspicion now is that in capturing, Avid would revolt every time the 24A mode put a break in the timecode between shots...

3Prong told me that the SpeedRamp plugin could do the pulldown, but I have not been able to test that yet. And of course, this would significantly increase render times.

The V1U 24P system:
http://bssc.sel.sony.com/Broadcastan...ogressive.html

Sony states:
"Leading manufacturers are scheduled to release nonlinear editing software compatible with the "24A" mode. These nonlinear software can detect the 2-3 sequence and remove the 2-3 properly. This way, the editor can create a 24p project, edit precisely at 24fps (23.98 progressive frames per second) throughout the process, and output the final master as:

1. A sequence of still images at 24 fps, for film out
2. A 23.98 YUV (uncompressed) HD file, for output to Cinealta™ products
3. A 23.98 SD MPEG2 file, for the highest quality DVD mastering possible
4. A 60i HDV file (2:3 added back in), for creating an HDV edit master
5. A 60i YUV (2:3 added back in, uncompressed) HD or SD file, for outputting to Digital Betacam™ or HDCAM™ for broadcast"

Thanks!

Joseph

Steve Mullen · February 5th, 2007, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseph B. Landeene

Sony states:
"Leading manufacturers ...

Does this term still apply to Avid? :)

Seriously, the coming version is now in "open" beta which means if you are a registered owner you can "upgrade" to the next version now. This would let you find-out.

I'm hoping Liquid will add pulldown remove/add in 7.2. However, they've never had this function which means it might be way too much work. Moreover, I suspect Avid wants to keep Liquid in the "non-film" market. This would logically mean 24p for the V1 should be supported. But, did Avid have enough time with a V1 before they released the beta?

February 5th, 2007, 10:08 AM	#1
Joseph B. Landeene Tourist Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Hales Corners, WI Posts: 2	24P Support in Avid Xpress Pro Does anyone know if Xpress Pro currently supports the V1Us 24P mode? (I guess we know for sure that it can edit the video; the question is, will it be practical for Avid to do the 2:3 pulldown.) I am hoping that Avid either currently does or in the near future will support this natively, perhaps even in the capture mode. If anyone knows of a present workflow for 24A mode in Xpress Pro, I would be very thankful to know. My suspicion now is that in capturing, Avid would revolt every time the 24A mode put a break in the timecode between shots... 3Prong told me that the SpeedRamp plugin could do the pulldown, but I have not been able to test that yet. And of course, this would significantly increase render times. The V1U 24P system: http://bssc.sel.sony.com/Broadcastan...ogressive.html Sony states: "Leading manufacturers are scheduled to release nonlinear editing software compatible with the "24A" mode. These nonlinear software can detect the 2-3 sequence and remove the 2-3 properly. This way, the editor can create a 24p project, edit precisely at 24fps (23.98 progressive frames per second) throughout the process, and output the final master as: 1. A sequence of still images at 24 fps, for film out 2. A 23.98 YUV (uncompressed) HD file, for output to Cinealta™ products 3. A 23.98 SD MPEG2 file, for the highest quality DVD mastering possible 4. A 60i HDV file (2:3 added back in), for creating an HDV edit master 5. A 60i YUV (2:3 added back in, uncompressed) HD or SD file, for outputting to Digital Betacam™ or HDCAM™ for broadcast" Thanks! Joseph