So far I have not heard enough extra features that seem to support such a large price difference. How do the vx2100 and pd170 compare in features and price.

Dave

Couldn't get back in. DSE was there, I'll ask him to post.

Chris,

you rock, chief!

heath

I had only a very brief look at it just once, no photos, and couldn't get back in the second time. But just wait for the reports from those who had better luck than I did!

I think there's a post with a pic of the pro version. lots of wires and the rquisite black color. So, gray=consumer and prosumer while black=pro, huh? JVC is confusing us with the black HD1 and black HD10. <g>

heath

<<<-- Originally posted by Keith Forman : I read about this cam in this month's DV mag... It doesn't shoot 24fps, but it will playback at 24 fps to emulate film. -->>>

It doesn't shoot at 24 fps, but it can play back at 24 fps? How does that work? Are you saying the cam's VCR can play back at 24, and your PC can capture it?

Charlie,

I believe the consumer version has something in their SD mode that does that.

heath

That might make sense, because so far, I've had no idea what use the SD mode could possibly serve!

I shot something over two days last May with my HD10. First day, I shot in SD (forgetting it records in mpeg2-ts like HD) and the next day in DV. I finally did a down-convert when I realized not many Mac HDV third partiers support the SD mode yet. I should've shot DV both days, or just HD and done the down-convert.

I LOVE the down- and up-convert on the HD10!

heath

From what I've read the DV (SD) mode sounds very interesting. Like a VX-2100 with native widescreen, calibrated zoom and focus rings, and much better manual controls than a PD-170.

I am currently working with footage shot with the FX1 25fps version and I have to tell you, it's a winner!

The footage looks incredible and it should be a serious solution for filmmakers wanting to shoot features at an incredible price and transfer to film.

The footage shows no chroma noise like we've seen with the 1 chip HDV cam. If 24p is important to you, most likely it is because you want to do a film out. If its the case, buy the 25p version.

Frederic

Frederic,

Let me know if you can help Jon Fordham and I get our hands on either the NTSC (preferred, actually) or the PAL FX1, so we can test and review it!

heath

Heath,

They are keeping a tight grip on these pre-release units. If there is anything I can do, I will.

Frederic

Hey all, I've never considered buying a Pal 25p before. But, after reading this stuff it's making me think that it might be worthwhile this time.

If we buy a Pal version - yet, want to consistantly convert to NTSC - what is the deal with that? In FCP do we cut at 25p and upon export convert to 29.97 frames? Anywhere I can look to read up on this?

Also, can someone explain to me the whole "Camera switchable between 50 Hz /60 Hz" thing? Does that mean 50i and 60i? I'm dumb when it comes that stuff.

Thanks!

Murph

Frederich,

Let me know--I can use it for a magazine article I'm writing and also for a review for another major video magazine.

Murph,

You can always convert PAL to NTSC and vice versa using DVFilm Maker.

Thanx,

heath