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Augusto Manuel · April 16th, 2005, 12:32 PM

I was at a video conference the other day and the Sony rep said TV stations around the country were embracing the HDV format by purchasing HDV cameras.

Does anyone know which TV stations have purchased HDV equipment?

Shannon Rawls · April 16th, 2005, 06:40 PM

all of them. *smile*

serious.

Augusto Manuel · April 17th, 2005, 10:30 AM

Particularly I wanted to know which TV stations has purchased the Z-1 and related HDV equipment. I was at at small video conference about 3 weeks ago and a Sony rep said that TV stations were embracing the HDV format.
I just wanted to know which stations were they ????

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Originally Posted by Shannon Rawls

all of them. *smile*

serious.

Wayne Orr · April 17th, 2005, 01:06 PM

I would also like to know, Augusto, since most stations in the country aren't broadcasting in HD, so why bother with HDV cameras?

I think that Sony rep may be guilty of what is called "hyperbole," at least, and maybe BS at worst. That's not to say that he won't be correct at some time in the future. But today?

Wayne Orr

Augusto Manuel · April 17th, 2005, 01:43 PM

There are many stations who have embraced the HDV format and all I want to know which ones they are. I dont care if there are or not stations broadcasting in HD.

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Originally Posted by Wayne Orr

I would also like to know, Augusto, since most stations in the country aren't broadcasting in HD, so why bother with HDV cameras?

I think that Sony rep may be guilty of what is called "hyperbole," at least, and maybe BS at worst. That's not to say that he won't be correct at some time in the future. But today?

Wayne Orr

Wayne Orr · April 17th, 2005, 01:58 PM

Contact Val Reynolds, one of the top Sony sales execs.

Nick Hiltgen · April 17th, 2005, 02:48 PM

Wayne I found your comment very relevant.

The company I work for now sells content to HDNet who has approved HDV for insert shots though not for use full time on a show. (have to keeps using the HD-CAM's for that. But that's satallite, not over the air broadcast so I'm not sure if it's entirely relevant or not either.

Barry Green · April 17th, 2005, 03:15 PM

Most stations do broadcast digitally now (or, at least, digital broadcasts are available throughout the country). Digital does not necessarily mean high-def... I don't know how many stations may be originating their own high-def broadcasts, I'm sure that's a very much smaller number than the number of stations that are relaying network high-def boradcasts.

Augusto Manuel · April 17th, 2005, 03:33 PM

What do you gain with that? {remainder edited by moderator}

Peter Wiley · April 17th, 2005, 06:26 PM

There are about 1400 US TV stations that are now doing some digital programming http://www.nab.org/Newsroom/issues/d...TVStations.asp

About 840 US stations are "HD capable"

Here is a list of active broadcasters http://www.hdtv.net/stations.htm

Here is another http://www.hdpictures.com/stations.htm

Patrick King · April 17th, 2005, 08:44 PM

Take a deep breath, back away from the keyboard, follow the links Mr. Wiley has graciously provided you and then give us an update on what you've found.

Joel Corral · April 17th, 2005, 09:00 PM

so if stations now have HDV cameras are they brodcasting HDV signal? if so using what decks?

Augusto Manuel · April 17th, 2005, 10:33 PM

Thanks Peter.

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Originally Posted by Peter Wiley

There are about 1400 US TV stations that are now doing some digital programming http://www.nab.org/Newsroom/issues/d...TVStations.asp

About 840 US stations are "HD capable"

Here is a list of active broadcasters http://www.hdtv.net/stations.htm

Here is another http://www.hdpictures.com/stations.htm

Peter Wiley · May 7th, 2005, 07:47 AM

It bears repeating that digitial TV and HDTV are not the same thing. There is some confusion on this point. The FCC has required that all U.S. TV station use digital transmissions by 2006 (I think). SD TV can be broadcast digitally and the bulk of digital transmission at the moment is SD. HDTV is one digital format that comes in two flavors (720p and 1080i).

TV stations do not have to have HDTV camera equipment to broadcast digitally. Many cable systems do not yet support digitial TV (not to be confused with "digital cable").

Here is a typical FAQ from a TV station dealing with these issues that might be helpful.

There is quite a lot to be sorted out re HDTV services as viable commerical (as opposed to merely technical) medium/format.

Dominic Jones · May 7th, 2005, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Wayne Orr

I would also like to know, Augusto, since most stations in the country aren't broadcasting in HD, so why bother with HDV cameras?

Well, over here in the UK the BBC have moved over to Z1's from PD-150's (or at least are in the process of doing so), and they don't broadcast a single frame of HD.

Don't forget, the Z1 is a damn nice DVCam camera too - true 16:9, wide latitude, PAL/NTSC switchable, B+W EVF - a big improvement over the PD-150 except in the lowest of light... I would guess their thinking is to future-proof their purchasing "in case" HDV takes off.

April 16th, 2005, 12:32 PM	#1
Augusto Manuel Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: san francisco california Posts: 145	HDV and TV stations I was at a video conference the other day and the Sony rep said TV stations around the country were embracing the HDV format by purchasing HDV cameras. Does anyone know which TV stations have purchased HDV equipment?

April 17th, 2005, 01:58 PM	#6
Wayne Orr Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Northridge Ca Posts: 734	Contact Val Reynolds, one of the top Sony sales execs. __________________ Wayne If it was easy, they'd get a relative to do it.

April 17th, 2005, 08:44 PM	#11
Patrick King Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Enterprise, AL Posts: 857	Take a deep breath, back away from the keyboard, follow the links Mr. Wiley has graciously provided you and then give us an update on what you've found. __________________ Fear No Weevil!

April 16th, 2005, 06:40 PM	#2
Shannon Rawls Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 853	all of them. smile serious.

April 17th, 2005, 01:06 PM	#4
Wayne Orr Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Northridge Ca Posts: 734	I would also like to know, Augusto, since most stations in the country aren't broadcasting in HD, so why bother with HDV cameras? I think that Sony rep may be guilty of what is called "hyperbole," at least, and maybe BS at worst. That's not to say that he won't be correct at some time in the future. But today? Wayne Orr

April 17th, 2005, 02:48 PM	#7
Nick Hiltgen Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 1,427	Wayne I found your comment very relevant. The company I work for now sells content to HDNet who has approved HDV for insert shots though not for use full time on a show. (have to keeps using the HD-CAM's for that. But that's satallite, not over the air broadcast so I'm not sure if it's entirely relevant or not either.

April 17th, 2005, 03:15 PM	#8
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	Most stations do broadcast digitally now (or, at least, digital broadcasts are available throughout the country). Digital does not necessarily mean high-def... I don't know how many stations may be originating their own high-def broadcasts, I'm sure that's a very much smaller number than the number of stations that are relaying network high-def boradcasts.

April 17th, 2005, 03:33 PM	#9
Augusto Manuel Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: san francisco california Posts: 145	What do you gain with that? {remainder edited by moderator}

April 17th, 2005, 06:26 PM	#10
Peter Wiley Major Player Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Lewisburg PA Posts: 752	There are about 1400 US TV stations that are now doing some digital programming http://www.nab.org/Newsroom/issues/d...TVStations.asp About 840 US stations are "HD capable" Here is a list of active broadcasters http://www.hdtv.net/stations.htm Here is another http://www.hdpictures.com/stations.htm

April 17th, 2005, 09:00 PM	#12
Joel Corral Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brea, CA Posts: 356	so if stations now have HDV cameras are they brodcasting HDV signal? if so using what decks?

May 7th, 2005, 07:47 AM	#14
Peter Wiley Major Player Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Lewisburg PA Posts: 752	It bears repeating that digitial TV and HDTV are not the same thing. There is some confusion on this point. The FCC has required that all U.S. TV station use digital transmissions by 2006 (I think). SD TV can be broadcast digitally and the bulk of digital transmission at the moment is SD. HDTV is one digital format that comes in two flavors (720p and 1080i). TV stations do not have to have HDTV camera equipment to broadcast digitally. Many cable systems do not yet support digitial TV (not to be confused with "digital cable"). Here is a typical FAQ from a TV station dealing with these issues that might be helpful. There is quite a lot to be sorted out re HDTV services as viable commerical (as opposed to merely technical) medium/format.