What is this? FX1s for $1K at DVinfo.net

Dan Robinson · January 16th, 2006, 10:04 PM

Looks like there may be a new scam hitting the markets. Take a look at this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/SONY-HDR-FX1-HDV...QQcmdZViewItem

There are several other auctions like this out there. And you 'get' free shipping worldwide.

I already have an FX1 and I'm familiar with all the scams and bait-and-switches out there, but this is a new one. Out of pure morbid curiosity I wonder what they are doing.

Patrick Jenkins · January 16th, 2006, 10:11 PM

They say you have to coordinate the sale outside of ebay. Therefore it's a scam.

Miguel Lombana · January 16th, 2006, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick Jenkins

They say you have to coordinate the sale outside of ebay. Therefore it's a scam.

From the track record of sales, this isn't someone that sells a ton of high end stuff, suddenly there is an entire Ebay store online, might be a highjacked ebay id.

Either way, if in question, report it to Ebay and let them investigate it before someone else gets burned.

Glenn Davidson · January 16th, 2006, 10:50 PM

And all those high end items in the store end in 19 hours from now. By the time E-bay finds out the auctions are over.

Glenn Davidson · January 16th, 2006, 11:20 PM

Wow ebay is fast. Listing is Gone!

Dan Robinson · January 17th, 2006, 11:14 AM

The thing that struck me about it is how obvious it was. The guy could have at least set a believable price. I guess there are some that will still fall for it.

Daniel Rudd · January 23rd, 2006, 10:47 AM

some of the lesser known mail order houses advertise a very low price.

Then when you order, they call you an hour later and say, we reccomend you get this "accesory pack" which includes the basic battery, manual, power supplie and connector cables.

This accessory pack costs $1200

And you say: Well that's supposed to come with the camera.

They say: No it's an import version.

Of course I wasn't stupid enough to learn this myself. This happened to my friend who wishes to remain annonymous.

I ended up....

er.. um... I mean *my friend* ended up cancelling that order, double checking that it was cancelled with his credit card company, and ordering from BH

Graham Hickling · January 23rd, 2006, 08:37 PM

It can work the other way too, on EBay at least. I recently listed a Sony DV cam that was worth perhaps $600 and some dude contacted me to say his company needed equipment urgently and was willing to pay me $2600 if I would sell it immediately to him, outside of the normal EBay auction process.

Clues it was a scam? Well .... he said his company was in Nigeria AND HE TYPED A LOT OF THE EMAIL IN CAPITALS.

(D'oh!! - bangs forehead on desk)

Daniel Lucas · January 25th, 2006, 11:23 PM

I was watching the auctions recently for FX1's and Z1's & saw numerous scams. Obviously, they're targeting these cams.
- usually only 1 day auctions (sometimes 2-3), probably to hook a few fish then drop the auction before ebay gets wind of it.
- said buyers either "had" to email before bidding, or should to get "low buy it now price" (though they weren't official buy it now auctions), with their direct email address listed, and, in small print, a ridiculously low price $1000-1200.
- usually have several available.
- mentioned pmt in money order or bank wire transfer for faster service.
- posted under member ID's that looked good, long term member with lots of good feedback, no hint of problems, though don't usually sell these cams (so, as someone noted above, they had likely stolen a legit member's acct access).
- their English is usually bad, though that in itself means nothing.

When I'ld spot one, I'ld email ebay to warn them, and the auctions were pulled long before they ended.

There is a website dedicated to stopping scams. They post email addresses of ebay scammers alphabetically. I found several there. Not all scammers give their email address, unfortunately. The site is:

http://www.freespaces.com/scamfinders/ebayscammers.htm

I have it bookmarked, and I pop back and forth when I'm checking auctions on ebay that look interesting.
Perhaps this info should be posted somewhere more visible on this site to alert more members who might not see this thread??
Hope this saves others from getting hosed.

Jack Zhang · January 27th, 2006, 08:53 PM

^So the demo model $1400 Z1s are a scam! I pity the people who might have fallen for it.

John L Scott · January 27th, 2006, 09:32 PM

I was just checking out places to send in my new used VX2K to get the drum replaced and found this place!!! I could have had a NEW PD170 for what I paid for this fine used unusable camera of mine...........

http://www.pcandplasma.com/shop/sear...50&ParCat=1000

Patrick Jenkins · January 27th, 2006, 09:43 PM

my criteria: If it's in NYC and it's not B&H, it's a scam.

Graham Hickling · January 27th, 2006, 10:08 PM

Read about these guys here! http://www.resellerratings.com/seller7212.html

Chris Hurd · January 28th, 2006, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John L Scott

I was just checking out places to send in my used VX2K to get the drum replaced

There's only one place to send in your VX2K to get the drum replaced, and that's the Sony factory service center in Atlanta, GA.

John L Scott · January 28th, 2006, 01:15 AM

Shishhhh!!!! I guess I will be shipping it to Atlanta. Thanks for the heads up once again :)

January 16th, 2006, 10:04 PM	#1
Dan Robinson Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Charleston, West Virginia Posts: 131	What is this? FX1s for $1K Looks like there may be a new scam hitting the markets. Take a look at this: http://cgi.ebay.com/SONY-HDR-FX1-HDV...QQcmdZViewItem There are several other auctions like this out there. And you 'get' free shipping worldwide. I already have an FX1 and I'm familiar with all the scams and bait-and-switches out there, but this is a new one. Out of pure morbid curiosity I wonder what they are doing.

January 16th, 2006, 11:20 PM	#5
Glenn Davidson Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Nevada City, California Posts: 499	Going, Going...Gone! Wow ebay is fast. Listing is Gone!

January 23rd, 2006, 10:47 AM	#7
Daniel Rudd Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: North Muskegon, MI Posts: 213	some of the lesser known mail order houses advertise a very low price. Then when you order, they call you an hour later and say, we reccomend you get this "accesory pack" which includes the basic battery, manual, power supplie and connector cables. This accessory pack costs $1200 And you say: Well that's supposed to come with the camera. They say: No it's an import version. Of course I wasn't stupid enough to learn this myself. This happened to my friend who wishes to remain annonymous. I ended up.... er.. um... I mean my friend ended up cancelling that order, double checking that it was cancelled with his credit card company, and ordering from BH __________________ Daniel Rudd Digital Storyteller (Sony HDV, Aspect HD) Soundtrack Creation & Royalty Free Music Production www.stock20.com

January 25th, 2006, 11:23 PM	#9
Daniel Lucas New Boot Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 23	ebay scams & scam alert website I was watching the auctions recently for FX1's and Z1's & saw numerous scams. Obviously, they're targeting these cams. - usually only 1 day auctions (sometimes 2-3), probably to hook a few fish then drop the auction before ebay gets wind of it. - said buyers either "had" to email before bidding, or should to get "low buy it now price" (though they weren't official buy it now auctions), with their direct email address listed, and, in small print, a ridiculously low price $1000-1200. - usually have several available. - mentioned pmt in money order or bank wire transfer for faster service. - posted under member ID's that looked good, long term member with lots of good feedback, no hint of problems, though don't usually sell these cams (so, as someone noted above, they had likely stolen a legit member's acct access). - their English is usually bad, though that in itself means nothing. When I'ld spot one, I'ld email ebay to warn them, and the auctions were pulled long before they ended. There is a website dedicated to stopping scams. They post email addresses of ebay scammers alphabetically. I found several there. Not all scammers give their email address, unfortunately. The site is: http://www.freespaces.com/scamfinders/ebayscammers.htm I have it bookmarked, and I pop back and forth when I'm checking auctions on ebay that look interesting. Perhaps this info should be posted somewhere more visible on this site to alert more members who might not see this thread?? Hope this saves others from getting hosed.

January 27th, 2006, 09:32 PM	#11
John L Scott Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska Posts: 86	Is this site a scam!!! I was just checking out places to send in my new used VX2K to get the drum replaced and found this place!!! I could have had a NEW PD170 for what I paid for this fine used unusable camera of mine........... http://www.pcandplasma.com/shop/sear...50&ParCat=1000 __________________ "Finding Gold In Tailings" www.dredgingworld.com

January 16th, 2006, 10:11 PM	#2
Patrick Jenkins Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 382	They say you have to coordinate the sale outside of ebay. Therefore it's a scam.

January 16th, 2006, 10:50 PM	#4
Glenn Davidson Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Nevada City, California Posts: 499	And all those high end items in the store end in 19 hours from now. By the time E-bay finds out the auctions are over.

January 17th, 2006, 11:14 AM	#6
Dan Robinson Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Charleston, West Virginia Posts: 131	The thing that struck me about it is how obvious it was. The guy could have at least set a believable price. I guess there are some that will still fall for it.

January 23rd, 2006, 08:37 PM	#8
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	It can work the other way too, on EBay at least. I recently listed a Sony DV cam that was worth perhaps $600 and some dude contacted me to say his company needed equipment urgently and was willing to pay me $2600 if I would sell it immediately to him, outside of the normal EBay auction process. Clues it was a scam? Well .... he said his company was in Nigeria AND HE TYPED A LOT OF THE EMAIL IN CAPITALS. (D'oh!! - bangs forehead on desk)

January 27th, 2006, 08:53 PM	#10
Jack Zhang Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Burnaby, BC, Canada Posts: 3,053	^So the demo model $1400 Z1s are a scam! I pity the people who might have fallen for it.

January 27th, 2006, 09:43 PM	#12
Patrick Jenkins Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 382	my criteria: If it's in NYC and it's not B&H, it's a scam.

January 27th, 2006, 10:08 PM	#13
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	Read about these guys here! http://www.resellerratings.com/seller7212.html

January 28th, 2006, 01:15 AM	#15
John L Scott Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska Posts: 86	Shishhhh!!!! I guess I will be shipping it to Atlanta. Thanks for the heads up once again :) __________________ "Finding Gold In Tailings" www.dredgingworld.com