STOKED... but need to know what battery is included...

Boyd Ostroff · March 15th, 2006, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Kang

Well, the small battery that comes with the FX-1 does last about 21/2 to 3 hours.

I'm still finding that had to believe for some reason.... maybe my Z1 draws more power than your FX1?

Joe Lumbroso · March 15th, 2006, 03:58 PM

Boyd, my 2 and 1/2 hour result with a 570 is on a Z1U. I'll use my 570 one last time and try to time it this time just for you (I used the word "time" 3 times in this sentence. heh).

Boyd Ostroff · March 15th, 2006, 04:34 PM

That will be interesting to see. Again, my 4 to 5 hour number is based on continuous running with both viewfinder and LCD active. If I shoot for short periods and turn the camera off in between then I think the run time might be a lot longer. OTOH, I see that the B&H sells the 570 for about $50 and the 970 for about $100, so they would both cost about the same per hour :-)

On page 12 of the Z1 manual it lists estimated continuous HDV recording time with the LCD on and fully charged batteries as follows:

570: 105 min
770: 220 min
970: 335 min

Interestingly, they list slightly longer times when recording DVCAM/DV SP:

570: 110 min
770: 235 min
970: 355 min

But Sony seems to think the 970 lasts 3x as long as the 570, not 2x as you're claiming. Now personally I think that 335 minute rating for the 970 might be a little optimistic. But they aren't even claiming 2 hours time for the 570. They claim "typical times" of 185 minutes for the 970 and 55 minutes for the 570. Those might be more like "worst case" numbers however...

Mike Toledano · March 20th, 2006, 04:25 PM

Another nice timely thread...

A third party eBay battery just died on me the other day. Fully charged, yet when I boot up my fx1 with the battery I get the error message "Use 'InfoLithium' Battery". It was a knockoff 970, and had worked perfectly for a few uses prior to yesterday.

I'm now attempting to get a replacement as they offer a 1 year warranty... might have just been this one that was defective.

Mike Toledano · March 21st, 2006, 07:31 AM

The ebay store will replace it for me free of charge. In fact they are sending it to me before I send the defective battery back. Good communication, we'll see how this goes.

Leo Pepingco · March 21st, 2006, 07:54 AM

Just out of curiosity, I never hear anyone use power directly from the power cable. Is that a bad thing?

My old Hi 8 cam had a battery that lasted only 2 hours, so every chance I had, I used cable without the battery attached and let that charge just in case...

All I hear is people telling you to get lots of long lasting batteries. Is using power not as effective?

Boyd Ostroff · March 21st, 2006, 08:26 AM

Please don't post links to products from non-sponsors. As far as running your camera on line power, you might want to read this thread...

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=44855

Mark Utley · April 16th, 2006, 12:02 PM

Does anyone know if the 970 battery and ACV-Q1050D dual charger will work with each other? On the charger's description, it doesn't list the 970 as being compatable but it does have other same-sized batteries. I'm pretty positive it will work but I just wanted to check and be sure.

Charger: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...goryNavigation
Battery: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search

I'm out of town until tomorrow and won't be able to check this until then, so thanks in advance!

Boyd Ostroff · April 16th, 2006, 12:08 PM

I can't say for sure because I haven't used one, but it's made by Sony and says it's compatible with L series batteries. Since the 970 is relatively new, it might not be listed simply because the 960 used to be the top of the line.

Mark Utley · April 16th, 2006, 12:12 PM

Thanks for the quick reply, Boyd. I think I'll call Sony tomorrow.

Matt Davis · April 16th, 2006, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurth Bousman

..and there's been some reports of 3rd party batteries not functioning in the z1. Probably they were ebay offerings. Kurth

But not so with Hawk Woods' batteries.

http://www.hawkwoods.com/

They work, at half the price of Sonys, and come with a free charger. Have used my collection for 6 months with absolutely no problems. Especially useful in the on-camera light.

My only wish is for a little manual switch on these pattern batts that would signify they've been used.

You'll get less than a PD150's worth out of them, but a day's shoot is two batteries, max. Collect the chargers, great for charging 3 batts overnite! :-) Have thanked the car adaptor too - left the Z1 on VTR on batts by mistake? Charge the limp Sony battery on way to location - 40 mins of backup! :-)

HTH, M.

March 15th, 2006, 03:58 PM	#17
Joe Lumbroso Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 110	Boyd, my 2 and 1/2 hour result with a 570 is on a Z1U. I'll use my 570 one last time and try to time it this time just for you (I used the word "time" 3 times in this sentence. heh). __________________ Brilliant Champions \| Gallery Hijinks

March 20th, 2006, 04:25 PM	#19
Mike Toledano Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 85	Another nice timely thread... A third party eBay battery just died on me the other day. Fully charged, yet when I boot up my fx1 with the battery I get the error message "Use 'InfoLithium' Battery". It was a knockoff 970, and had worked perfectly for a few uses prior to yesterday. I'm now attempting to get a replacement as they offer a 1 year warranty... might have just been this one that was defective. Last edited by Boyd Ostroff; March 21st, 2006 at 08:24 AM. Reason: removed non-sponsor link

April 16th, 2006, 12:02 PM	#23
Mark Utley Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 479	Does anyone know if the 970 battery and ACV-Q1050D dual charger will work with each other? On the charger's description, it doesn't list the 970 as being compatable but it does have other same-sized batteries. I'm pretty positive it will work but I just wanted to check and be sure. Charger: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...goryNavigation Battery: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search I'm out of town until tomorrow and won't be able to check this until then, so thanks in advance! __________________ Mark Utley

April 16th, 2006, 12:12 PM	#25
Mark Utley Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 479	Thanks for the quick reply, Boyd. I think I'll call Sony tomorrow. __________________ Mark Utley

March 15th, 2006, 04:34 PM	#18
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,787	That will be interesting to see. Again, my 4 to 5 hour number is based on continuous running with both viewfinder and LCD active. If I shoot for short periods and turn the camera off in between then I think the run time might be a lot longer. OTOH, I see that the B&H sells the 570 for about $50 and the 970 for about $100, so they would both cost about the same per hour :-) On page 12 of the Z1 manual it lists estimated continuous HDV recording time with the LCD on and fully charged batteries as follows: 570: 105 min 770: 220 min 970: 335 min Interestingly, they list slightly longer times when recording DVCAM/DV SP: 570: 110 min 770: 235 min 970: 355 min But Sony seems to think the 970 lasts 3x as long as the 570, not 2x as you're claiming. Now personally I think that 335 minute rating for the 970 might be a little optimistic. But they aren't even claiming 2 hours time for the 570. They claim "typical times" of 185 minutes for the 970 and 55 minutes for the 570. Those might be more like "worst case" numbers however...

March 21st, 2006, 07:31 AM	#20
Mike Toledano Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 85	The ebay store will replace it for me free of charge. In fact they are sending it to me before I send the defective battery back. Good communication, we'll see how this goes.

March 21st, 2006, 07:54 AM	#21
Leo Pepingco Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 275	Just out of curiosity, I never hear anyone use power directly from the power cable. Is that a bad thing? My old Hi 8 cam had a battery that lasted only 2 hours, so every chance I had, I used cable without the battery attached and let that charge just in case... All I hear is people telling you to get lots of long lasting batteries. Is using power not as effective?

March 21st, 2006, 08:26 AM	#22
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,787	Please don't post links to products from non-sponsors. As far as running your camera on line power, you might want to read this thread... http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=44855

April 16th, 2006, 12:08 PM	#24
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,787	I can't say for sure because I haven't used one, but it's made by Sony and says it's compatible with L series batteries. Since the 970 is relatively new, it might not be listed simply because the 960 used to be the top of the line.