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June 7th, 2006, 11:51 AM | #16 | ||
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Here goes another quote from Swiss Effects paper on HDV to film: Quote:
About the motion, I do not want to have slow motion on this short. What I want is to have a dancing movement that flows nicely. Either to move the camera or the dancers. How can I know, when I am shooting, that the movements flow well? Once again, the problem I may have with DV FilmMaker is that it seems to work fine with PremierePro and Vegas, and I will be using Avid Xpress Pro, which is not mentioned by DV Film. FCP is out too. |
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June 8th, 2006, 01:16 AM | #17 |
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I think Raylight is NLE specific. DVFilmmaker the program itself is not. It's a stand alone application so you can just put your clips into whatever.
But don't quote me on that. |
June 8th, 2006, 07:03 AM | #18 |
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[QUOTE=Evan C. King]I think Raylight is NLE specific. DVFilmmaker the program itself is not. It's a stand alone application so you can just put your clips into whatever.
QUOTE] I am quoting you on that because you're are right! Carlos, try the DV FilmMaker demo on some footage. I'll bet you like the result. Marcus Van Bavel also answers questions email to him. He also recommends avoiding the CineFrame modes. Hornady, that was the best explaination of "the jaggys" I've ever seen. Thanks for the link! |
June 8th, 2006, 09:05 AM | #19 |
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guys,
if your product will be a 1 hour long movie or more, and if you're going to output to film using HD resolution, i still suggest (for easier & faster workflow) to use cineframe... why? - yes, it is not true progressive. it's actually discarding one field. Just like if u deinterlace using interpolate. - but (this is a big but), if you use interlaced, consider the time to deinterlace the whole 1 hour timeline... how much time would it take? Just like Swiss Effect says, deinterlacing can be done in post, quality depends on calculation (algorithm). - most film output facility will deinterlace using high quality algo for short movies & commercials (30 or 60 secs). They can use motion estimation deinterlacer or the faster motion compare algo. - but for long hour movies, most film output facility will use interpolate method, for faster renders. Which is the same quality as cineframe! - some peeps will say, oh no, it won't take too much time to do 'motion estimation deinterlace', yes, it's true, for SD res. For HD res, it'll take 4 times as much, also 4 times as much space on the harddrive for the uncompressed frames. - my experience printing feature film, that it takes 1 whole day to deinterlace a 90 minutes movie, and that too using interpolate, not motion estimation. Motion estimation deinterlacing can prolong the processing time by 4 times as much. (HD resolution). - but again, i may miss something. Swiss Effect may have hardware deinterlacer, which can process in almost realtime, doing the high-quality "motion estimation" deinterlacing, in HD res. - for a preview image of such 'motion estimation deinterlacer' check this link: http://www.compression.ru/video/dein.../index_en.html there u can see some differences between different algorithm of deinterlacers. the MSU one is 'motion estimation', the smartdeinterlacer is 'motion compare'. There isn't an image from 'interpolate deinterlace' tho.... Cheers! |
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ow yes, i forgot to add:
- using cineframe will GREATLY reduce the common problems of 'wavy lines' or other interlacing artefacts, especially if you plan to do this in post/editing: * scale your framing * move your framing * rotate your framing * zoom in / out * stabilize your shaky shots * shaking your stable shots * fast speed or slow speed effect. etc... yet oth, it is best to consult the workflow with your film output post house. Last edited by Hornady Setiawan; June 8th, 2006 at 10:59 AM. |
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