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Adam Gold March 7th, 2009 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Duffy (Post 1023687)
I think its a good rule of thumb to be editing with a TV monitor also displaying the "real" picture as you are doing the edit.

I agree; I actually have two -- one connected to the deck so I can monitor during capture, and the other attached to the video card for full-screen playback from the timeline.

Prech Marton December 9th, 2009 01:00 AM

Sorry, i dont have time to read the whole topic, just a quick question:
FX1000 LCD screen show the picture in overscan format or
show the full 1080 lines frame?
if not, how can you compose a shot, if you dont know what the viewer
will see on a full hd lcd tv that is underscan?

Tom Hardwick December 9th, 2009 02:57 AM

Very good question Prech, and I await the replies with interest. I hate the huge overscan on my Z1, and the underscan mode reduces the image size on the screen so much that it's quite unacceptable.

Ken Ross December 9th, 2009 07:54 AM

I was always under the impression that overscan & underscan were more a function of CRT displays. A 1920X1080 LCD display should show the entire picture without any overscan or underscan.

Prech Marton December 9th, 2009 07:56 AM

Hi Ken.
please read my post again.
The question wasn't THAT!

(and for example my LG 37LC51 still used the overscan mode!, and it wasnt crt..)

Dirk Pel December 9th, 2009 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prech Marton (Post 1458059)
Sorry, i dont have time to read the whole topic, just a quick question:
FX1000 LCD screen show the picture in overscan format or
show the full 1080 lines frame?
if not, how can you compose a shot, if you dont know what the viewer
will see on a full hd lcd tv that is underscan?

, 10%
Hi Prech,
This is very simple to test, use your editing system and see on your PC monitor what is realy in the picture. I have the Z5 and when the overscan is off the monitor shows 100%.
I believe this function in is not possible on the FX1000, the same was also on my FX1 10% lost. I don't understand why Sony and most of the others do this. This was perhaps in the time of CRT ok, but most of the flatpanels can give you full screen, 1920x1080 pixels.
Dirk PEL(NL)

Adam Gold December 9th, 2009 12:28 PM

Where are you finding anything about overscan on the Z5? I can't find anything about it in the menus or in the manual. There is, however, a safety marker that you can display, which outlines either 80% or 90% of the whole frame, depending on how you set it, which implies to me that the LCD is supposed to be showing you the entire frame, as if Allscan mode was on.

As far as I can tell, there is no Allscan mode on the Z5. There certainly isn't one on the FX1000.

Dirk Pel December 9th, 2009 01:14 PM

Adam,
You are right, the allscan was on the Z1. It is the safetymarker 80 or 90%. I controlled with Canopus Edius the display. What you can see is nearly 100%. With my FX1 there was at least 10% missing and give a lot of problems, mics or heads on the video that you didn't see on the camcorder.
Dirk PEL(NL)

Prech Marton December 9th, 2009 01:51 PM

Dirk,

Maybe i dont really understand something, but
I ask my question because i DONT HAVE an FX1000 right now!
So how do i make a test??

Adam Gold December 9th, 2009 03:14 PM

I don't know how one could test anything, in the absence of the thing being tested. I don't see how you could test one until you get your hands on one. Then it would obviously be a simple matter of shooting a test chart and comparing the display on the cam to the image captured on the tape, displayed in a PC.

My experience is the FX1000 and the Z5 both show pretty much the entire frame. Others have different experiences.


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