Bypass the HDV codec via HDMI and you have a winner. When the IOHD comes out, that'll be key, along with a 35mm lens and adaptor.

heath

I saw these cameras today...
 

...Or at least the mock ups, which were in a glass case at the IOV show in Coventry and so couldn't be handled.

Interestingly, one of the Sony guys said that the mount is "probably" the same mount as used on the JVC GY-HDxxx range, so all lenses and adaptors which fit that cam will fit these (as I say, the camera couldn't be touched so I couldn't confirm this, although they had a display of lenses in the cabinet with the cameras, and one of those was the stock fujinon which you get with the JVC).

Also the big shoulder camera has HD-SDI and 4 channel audio, whereas the small one doesn't. They are both 3 chip, the shoulder held camera will take both large and small tapes, also the UK "guestimate" price is around £5K for the shoulder mounted and probably under £4K for the smaller camera.

Oh yes, and they had the EX there too, but I couldn't get my hands on it as too many people were queueing up... all I can say is it looked nice from a distance

edit: oh yes, they didn't appear to have names yet, either (not as far as I can tell) so thats why I refer to them as the big shoulder camera and the small one...

Thanks for that info Paul. Was there any indication of when these two cams would be available in the UK?

The handheld camera was 4th Quarter 2007, the Shoulder held (I think) was 1st quarter 2008.

I really wished these cams had the Exmor chips instead of ClearVid. But who knows...

The exmor chips are explained here, and they are CMOS. They're in Sony DSLRs, and I think there is a version of one, if not the same chip, in the new Nikon DSLRs (D3 and D300):

http://photography.suite101.com/arti...nthusiast_dslr

heath

I'm talking about the Exmors currently in the EX1. That's what's needed for these models.

Jack,

I hear ya, but I'm wondering if they can take those sensors and adapt them for video use. I'm pleased, no matter what, that the sensors are 1/2 inch.

heath

I'm sorry, Heath. I'm confused. Which camera(s) are we talking about? The SLR, or the new Sony video cameras (which I'm pretty sure are listed as 1/3" CMOS, not 1/2".)

Or did I miss a design change somewhere?

The EX is 1/2"; I hear the new DLSR's CMOS chip is incredible and like Jack, I would love to see a video camera version.

heath

If Sony goes more in-depth into the 4k and above market, there's no doubt that a 4K cam from Sony might come soon with an adapted version of the Exmors.

Oh, and just in case you got confused when I said Exmor in the EX1, here's a picture that might clear that up: http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/do...21/sony_60.jpg

From the article: http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/do...70921/sony.htm (Japanese)

The EX is a whole different beast - the broadcast ENG style lens on that baby actually takes up most of the camera body - the sensors and electronics only account for the last 2 - 3 inches of the camera body. Hence interchangeable would not be possible as much of the lens mechanics are built structually into the body of the camera.

Has Sony announced these two HDV cameras in the US yet? If not, wow...they announced the V1e in September last year, then the V1u in US by October or so.

heath

Pricing?
 

Any news about the pricing?

Here is some more info.

http://www.sonybiz.net/res/attachmen...7079494747.pdf