New thoughts on 24p at DVinfo.net

Geoff Schatzel · February 24th, 2009, 06:59 PM

I love the way 24p looks when I shoot weddings, but with all the flash photography causing the smearing effect is still bothering me.

I can live with it during the daylight periods cuz it obviously doesn't show as much, but at receptions it's down right awful.

Also, I know 24p isn't great for slow mo, especially panning. Is there something out there that can make it look better like After Effects or Twixtor?

I filmed a couple walking out of their ceremony with 24p and with all the bubbles and flowers being thrown it looked like they would come through and hit you. Was unreal.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

John Knight · February 24th, 2009, 11:35 PM

Shoot interlaced. There - solved! That will be $50 thanks!!

Gary Nattrass · February 25th, 2009, 03:16 AM

Yup I agree the best option I find for shooting is interlaced and then do the progressive in post.

I shoot 1080i 50i at a shutter speed of 100 and then edit in final cut in that format, I then output a master at pro res 422 1080i 25p and produce my DVD's or smaller files from that.

Geoff Schatzel · February 25th, 2009, 07:24 PM

I use Canopus Edius 5 as my NLE.

Do I just go into the video properties and change interlaced footage to progressive? Or is there an output for it? Cuz I am not seeing that anywhere.

Just checking in case anyone uses Edius as well and has any tips.

Keith Forman · February 26th, 2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Nattrass

Yup I agree the best option I find for shooting is interlaced and then do the progressive in post.

I shoot 1080i 50i at a shutter speed of 100 and then edit in final cut in that format, I then output a master at pro res 422 1080i 25p and produce my DVD's or smaller files from that.

If you shoot in interlace and then output in progressive you get artifacts. Is has some similar look to 24P but is not the same. 24P is not an effect that you cannot get is post. You can only simulate it but not achieve it. A compromise is 30p (for panning and slow motion)

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February 24th, 2009, 06:59 PM	#1
Geoff Schatzel Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Posts: 33	New thoughts on 24p I love the way 24p looks when I shoot weddings, but with all the flash photography causing the smearing effect is still bothering me. I can live with it during the daylight periods cuz it obviously doesn't show as much, but at receptions it's down right awful. Also, I know 24p isn't great for slow mo, especially panning. Is there something out there that can make it look better like After Effects or Twixtor? I filmed a couple walking out of their ceremony with 24p and with all the bubbles and flowers being thrown it looked like they would come through and hit you. Was unreal. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

February 25th, 2009, 03:16 AM	#3
Gary Nattrass Trustee Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cornsay Durham UK Posts: 1,992	Yup I agree the best option I find for shooting is interlaced and then do the progressive in post. I shoot 1080i 50i at a shutter speed of 100 and then edit in final cut in that format, I then output a master at pro res 422 1080i 25p and produce my DVD's or smaller files from that. __________________ Over 15 minutes in Broadcast Film and TV production: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1044352/

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February 24th, 2009, 11:35 PM	#2
John Knight Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 588	Shoot interlaced. There - solved! That will be $50 thanks!!

February 25th, 2009, 07:24 PM	#4
Geoff Schatzel Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Posts: 33	I use Canopus Edius 5 as my NLE. Do I just go into the video properties and change interlaced footage to progressive? Or is there an output for it? Cuz I am not seeing that anywhere. Just checking in case anyone uses Edius as well and has any tips.