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Marc Myers · June 28th, 2010, 10:28 AM

Got my NX5U about a week ago and now I'm thinking about editing. Two issues seem to have come up already: ability to edit the 24Mbps AVCHD stream and the ability to use the PCM audio option. What software are you using?

Ron Evans · June 28th, 2010, 11:59 AM

Edius Pro 5.5

Ron Evans

Jay West · June 28th, 2010, 12:51 PM

PC version of Adobe PPro CS5 ingests both AVCHD and LPCM. I've used the lastest Cineform NeoHD with mixed results. I liked color balancing and matching with First Light (which seemed to better match my XH-A1 and NX5 than Premiere's color correction tools). However, I ran into stability problems using NeoHD build 257 it with CS5. While the most recent build (261, I think) which seems much more stable, but have not had have time to see if it resolved the instability on my system. Instead went ahead and finished the project (a dance recital shot with two AVCHD and three HDV cams) using the native streams in Premiere. What I saw was that PPro CS5 tended to bog down in the latter part of long-form multi-cam timelines (over 40 minutes) on my system (ASUS P6t D v2, 12 gB RAM, GTX 260 with MPE hardware enabled). The work-around was to divide the project up into shorter segments and use nested sequences to compile to a final timeline.

Avid MC5 also seems to work with both AVCHD and LPCM although, on my system, it is insisting I first import the files through Avid's conversion to Quicktime. I've just started to get Avid set up to run and somebody else may be able to give you better info.

I haven't tried Edius since getting my NX5, but all accounts seem positive.

Warren Kawamoto · June 28th, 2010, 01:24 PM

With Edius 5.5 you just import your footage and drop it straight to the timeline, no need to transcode.

Dan Asseff · June 28th, 2010, 08:11 PM

MC5 here. I have been using the mpeg files to mix with my PD170 though.I edit with Avid Liquid right now. I am trying to catch up with my editing so i can work(play) on MC5.I did some freelance work for a company and he edits with Edius 5.5 and produced a short show for our local station. I watch it in HD and I was amazed at how great the NX5 looked over the air. Here is a link to the show in low res. preview

Dan
Forever Moments Video Productions

Cristian Adrian Olariu · June 29th, 2010, 12:49 AM

I use Sony Vegas Pro 9. It works fine in SD and HD resolutions. I use dolby audio but tried LPCM also and didn't noticed any problems.

Chip Thome · June 29th, 2010, 12:57 AM

I'm saving up and hope to get a copy of Windows Movie Maker one of these days.

Perrone Ford · June 29th, 2010, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Asseff

MC5 here. I have been using the mpeg files to mix with my PD170 though.I edit with Avid Liquid right now. I am trying to catch up with my editing so i can work(play) on MC5

How are you getting AVCHD into MC5?

Dan Asseff · June 29th, 2010, 07:14 AM

Perrone,

I click on file then import. Find the file and click open.

Dan
Forever Moments Video Productions

Perrone Ford · June 29th, 2010, 07:46 AM

Ok, thought you were doing something fancy! :)

Dano Motley · June 29th, 2010, 09:04 AM

edius 5.5. works great!

Shufiyan Shukur · June 29th, 2010, 09:18 AM

I can't import the .mts file into FCP :-(

Marc Myers · June 29th, 2010, 12:42 PM

Thanks for the responses.
Dan, I'm an Avid Liquid user also but am moving on now that it's EOL and I have an AVCHD camera. I need a method that is faster than first converting all my AVCHD to MPEG2. Otherwise I wouldn't switch.
Cristian, have you experienced issues with using the FX (24Mbps) files?

Dan Asseff · June 29th, 2010, 01:01 PM

Marc,

I am not converting the files. I write to the cards in 1080i FX mode and the hard drive in 480i 4:3 or 16:9. Did you take advantage of the $495.00 for MC4/5 for Liquid users? MC5 will import AVCHD files. I tried Edius and could not get used to it. I think MC5 makes more cents to me, but it's a personal choice. I do like there multi cam feature in Edius.

Dan
Forever Moments Video Productions

Michael Liebergot · June 29th, 2010, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shufiyan Shukur

I can't import the .mts file into FCP :-(

You can easily re-wrap your files to Quicktime .mov files using ClipWrap

But, you very well might run into problems working with native AVCHD files. As the super high compressed nature of the AVCHD codec is Hell on your processor.

The same goes for many computers, weather PC or MAC. As at this time you have to have some serious horsepower to edit native AVCHD media. AVCHD was designed as a delivery not editing codec.

In many cases it's best to convert to an intermediate for the edit.

June 28th, 2010, 10:28 AM	#1
Marc Myers Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Long Island, NY and Northeast PA Posts: 132	So what are we using to edit? Got my NX5U about a week ago and now I'm thinking about editing. Two issues seem to have come up already: ability to edit the 24Mbps AVCHD stream and the ability to use the PCM audio option. What software are you using?

June 29th, 2010, 07:46 AM	#10
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June 28th, 2010, 11:59 AM	#2
Ron Evans Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,220	Edius Pro 5.5 Ron Evans

June 28th, 2010, 12:51 PM	#3
Jay West Major Player Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Red Lodge, Montana Posts: 889	PC version of Adobe PPro CS5 ingests both AVCHD and LPCM. I've used the lastest Cineform NeoHD with mixed results. I liked color balancing and matching with First Light (which seemed to better match my XH-A1 and NX5 than Premiere's color correction tools). However, I ran into stability problems using NeoHD build 257 it with CS5. While the most recent build (261, I think) which seems much more stable, but have not had have time to see if it resolved the instability on my system. Instead went ahead and finished the project (a dance recital shot with two AVCHD and three HDV cams) using the native streams in Premiere. What I saw was that PPro CS5 tended to bog down in the latter part of long-form multi-cam timelines (over 40 minutes) on my system (ASUS P6t D v2, 12 gB RAM, GTX 260 with MPE hardware enabled). The work-around was to divide the project up into shorter segments and use nested sequences to compile to a final timeline. Avid MC5 also seems to work with both AVCHD and LPCM although, on my system, it is insisting I first import the files through Avid's conversion to Quicktime. I've just started to get Avid set up to run and somebody else may be able to give you better info. I haven't tried Edius since getting my NX5, but all accounts seem positive.

June 28th, 2010, 01:24 PM	#4
Warren Kawamoto Trustee Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 1,435	With Edius 5.5 you just import your footage and drop it straight to the timeline, no need to transcode.

June 28th, 2010, 08:11 PM	#5
Dan Asseff Major Player Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Port Orange Fl Posts: 317	MC5 here. I have been using the mpeg files to mix with my PD170 though.I edit with Avid Liquid right now. I am trying to catch up with my editing so i can work(play) on MC5.I did some freelance work for a company and he edits with Edius 5.5 and produced a short show for our local station. I watch it in HD and I was amazed at how great the NX5 looked over the air. Here is a link to the show in low res. preview Dan Forever Moments Video Productions

June 29th, 2010, 12:49 AM	#6
Cristian Adrian Olariu Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Iasi, Romania Posts: 121	I use Sony Vegas Pro 9. It works fine in SD and HD resolutions. I use dolby audio but tried LPCM also and didn't noticed any problems.

June 29th, 2010, 12:57 AM	#7
Chip Thome Major Player Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Green Bay Wisconsin Posts: 553	I'm saving up and hope to get a copy of Windows Movie Maker one of these days.

June 29th, 2010, 07:14 AM	#9
Dan Asseff Major Player Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Port Orange Fl Posts: 317	Perrone, I click on file then import. Find the file and click open. Dan Forever Moments Video Productions

June 29th, 2010, 09:04 AM	#11
Dano Motley Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Montclair New Jersey Posts: 101	edius 5.5. works great!

June 29th, 2010, 12:42 PM	#13
Marc Myers Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Long Island, NY and Northeast PA Posts: 132	Thanks for the responses. Dan, I'm an Avid Liquid user also but am moving on now that it's EOL and I have an AVCHD camera. I need a method that is faster than first converting all my AVCHD to MPEG2. Otherwise I wouldn't switch. Cristian, have you experienced issues with using the FX (24Mbps) files?

June 29th, 2010, 01:01 PM	#14
Dan Asseff Major Player Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Port Orange Fl Posts: 317	Marc, I am not converting the files. I write to the cards in 1080i FX mode and the hard drive in 480i 4:3 or 16:9. Did you take advantage of the $495.00 for MC4/5 for Liquid users? MC5 will import AVCHD files. I tried Edius and could not get used to it. I think MC5 makes more cents to me, but it's a personal choice. I do like there multi cam feature in Edius. Dan Forever Moments Video Productions