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Bruno Demeocq March 25th, 2011 03:30 AM

Re: Sony to expand 35mm large format NXCAM lineup
 
I was looking for a new camera after my EX1 and I think that will be this one. Hope my EX1 will stays alive until next summer !
I'am a photographer too and I hope that I'll be able to use my nikon lens on the NEX-FS100. If i get it right S35mm is more or less like APS-C so my 50mmm 1,4 will behave like à 75mmm, and my 14mm 2,8 like a 21mm.
I like the small form factor too, good thing to cross borders.
I still do not have a slider travelling - I am living in Sénégal - but I really want one ! Will anyone gave me an advice on a good choice for that ? Which one is use in the video ?
Thanks

Glen Vandermolen March 25th, 2011 08:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Webster (Post 1631329)
Agreed,

I don't think any expects a 10x 2.8 zoom.

17-50
24-70
70-20

all these are common with 2.8 aperture. You certainly do not need the expensive RED zooms. We will have e-mounts with OIS at a fraction of the price.

Obviously in the meantime the sony 18-200 is in fact excellent if you have light, and the nikons and sigmas already adapt for MF and manual aperture work.

I have a VG10 with the Sony 18-200 lens and it is a very good lens. By itself it runs about $800. Not the fastest, for sure, but Sony sells an a-mount adapter for about $160. With that, a whole family of lenses become available, including some really nice Zeiss lenses:

α (alpha) Lenses | Sony | Sony Style USA

I'm sure there's some useful lenses in that selection.

Brian Drysdale March 25th, 2011 11:40 AM

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Here's some footage from the camera

vimeo.com/21461116

Glen Vandermolen March 25th, 2011 09:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Drysdale (Post 1631580)
Here's some footage from the camera

vimeo.com/21461116

I love the sunset shot!

And this was shot with a relatively slow zoom lens, f3.5 - 6.3. Imagine it with a fast prime.

Kris Zimbelman March 26th, 2011 10:52 AM

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if I were to purchase this camera and a Sony EX1, would I be able to cover most of the variables necessary in shooting a movie (yes, I am very much a novice)

in the first picture at the top of this page is the camera configured with a rail, matte box and an impressive looking lens. What is the approximate total cost of this setup minus the monitor?

NEX FS 100…Sony’s affordable version of the F3, first footage | Philip Bloom

Brian Drysdale March 26th, 2011 11:16 AM

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I don't know which lens is being used, although it looks rather like a RED zoom which costs $6000.

Matte boxes, rails and follow focus, you could use a bundle for the Af100 at approx $1900. You can easily get much more expensive in that department

Charlie Webster March 26th, 2011 12:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Glen Vandermolen (Post 1631520)
I have a VG10 with the Sony 18-200 lens and it is a very good lens. By itself it runs about $800. Not the fastest, for sure, but Sony sells an a-mount adapter for about $160. With that, a whole family of lenses become available, including some really nice Zeiss lenses:

α (alpha) Lenses | Sony | Sony Style USA

I'm sure there's some useful lenses in that selection.

there is no video continuous AF with A-mounts, hence they are not worth the trouble, IMHO

Gary Barr March 26th, 2011 01:42 PM

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Are people still actually using autofocus for video? That's a massive surprise to me from this thread about so-called pro camcorders.

Charles Papert March 26th, 2011 03:03 PM

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I can well imagine that there is probably a lot of feverish development going on at all of the camera and lens manufacturers in the realm of autofocus for large sensor video cameras. What worked for still cameras will not work for continuous shooting; what worked for small sensors won't be accurate enough for large.

Maintaining focus on moving objects will continue to be a challenge for everyone embracing these cameras, especially for those who cling to the notion that shallower is better.

Robert Young March 26th, 2011 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Charles Papert (Post 1631974)
Maintaining focus on moving objects will continue to be a challenge for everyone embracing these cameras, especially for those who cling to the notion that shallower is better.

I agree.
Looking at the FS100, I'm seeing a camera that looks mostly suited for set-up shots, studio/sound stage type shooting, and perhaps close to hopeless for ENG, documentary,and run n' gun shooting.
With lens, hood, battery, etc. it's about the same size and weight as an EX1, but seems far less versatile.
Unless you absolutely need the shallow DOF, I can't really see it replacing the EX type cams.

Brian Drysdale March 27th, 2011 01:40 AM

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Perhaps suitable for a certain style of shooting documentary, although those tend to be the ones that the F3 would be used for.

Not the best choice for ENG or the run & gun style of film making.

Here's an example of the F3 being used, although it doesn't look that much different to 2/3" if you kept the lens aperture wide.


Nigel Barker March 27th, 2011 02:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Papert (Post 1631974)
I can well imagine that there is probably a lot of feverish development going on at all of the camera and lens manufacturers in the realm of autofocus for large sensor video cameras.

Not just large sensor video cameras either. It seems that the R&D being done for consumer cameras is being used in prosumer cameras. There is some very clever stuff done with face recognition & autofocus which has been developed because consumers want simple point & shoot camcorders to take video of their kids & have it stay in focus. This sophisticated technology can be found in the Canon XF305 & Panasonic AG-AF101 & does a pretty good job which is almost spookily acurate at times.. The "Intelligent Auto" mode on the Panasonic GH2 does a damn fine job in most circumstances of taking good pictures with no skill from the photographer other than pointing & clicking. This level of smart automation can only improve with the passage of time.


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