Sony announces Pro version of the NEX camcorder at DVinfo.net

Todd Mizomi · March 24th, 2011, 04:16 AM

Sony introduces Professional Grade NEX Camcorder the NEX-FS100JK Akihabara News

Zhong Cheung · March 24th, 2011, 04:53 AM

Awesome! Can't wait.

Ryan Sarver · March 24th, 2011, 09:39 AM

No HD/SDI... I can understand this wanting to leave the more pro features on the F3. No ND filters....that I can't understand. NDs are on the most basic of prosumer cameras. That lack of feature alone makes we skip this and save for the F3....come on Sony.

Keith Forman · March 24th, 2011, 09:52 AM

It has all the features needed by pro videographers and very inexpensive!

Sony Product Detail Page NEXFS100UK

Bob Willis · March 24th, 2011, 11:01 AM

No ND filter
No HD-SDI output
Only One card slot
Very poor design and ergonomics

Brian Drysdale · March 24th, 2011, 11:55 AM

Just about the same as a DSLR, but without the imaging artefacts.

I suspect the Sony FS 100 is going to be one of those love it or hate cameras.

Chris Medico · March 24th, 2011, 12:02 PM

I waited with baited breath for more info to be released about this cam only to {sigh} once it was released.

Back to planning for a F3. {sigh} again.

Burk Webb · March 24th, 2011, 12:10 PM

This thing sounds perfect for me! I love the F3 sensor, can't wait to get my hands on this little guy!

Chris Medico · March 24th, 2011, 12:17 PM

It would be a great choice to replace shooting with a DSLR. Its not the best choice if you are looking to grow past the novelty of the large sensor.

As much as I enjoy the artistic options the image of my 7d offers its a royal PITA to shot with on a bright day. My EX1r is a pleasure in contrast.

I was hoping for something closer to the EX1 but it looks like the FS-100 will be closer to the 7d ergonomics wise. Sony is definitely drawing a line in the sand between the people that appreciate true professional cameras and those willing to put up with crap ergonomics to get DOF control.

I'm going to take a serious look at the FS100 at NAB. I expect it to only complete the decision to save up more for a F3 or something with more practical features.

Strictly my opinion.

Gianni Paolella · March 24th, 2011, 01:02 PM

Sorry but can sombody explane me the difference , in term of quality and sooting, betwen this new Sony camera (6500 $) and the Canon 7D ore better Mark2?
APSC,cmos sensor (Super35??? What does it mean)
No ND
avchd 24 Mbits
Ok XLR mic nice
No all the lens you want
No AF
No zoom...and so on...
Sorry but I am sure that with the same money I can Buy one Mark2 to all the best lens I want.
Is it true?

Brian Drysdale · March 24th, 2011, 01:22 PM

The resolution is better and you don't have the serious moire artefacts that the DSLRs have. Much less skew because it has a sensor designed for video rather than stills. No record time limits.

Super 35 is a standard motion picture format, so you can use cine lenses if you want to. Perhaps more an advantage for having the option of the zooms than primes.

You have the option to record on a Nanoflash or other outside recorders with time code using a superior codec. Someone on the other thread on the FS 100 says that the HDMI is 10 bit according to a Sony engineer, which is positive if correct.

Burk Webb · March 24th, 2011, 01:22 PM

In my opinion the biggest reason to go with a FS100 are (and these are based on playing with the F3):

Incredible low light performance - The F3 is incredibly clean in low light, even up to 6400 ISO. The low noise also translates into better bang for bit codec performance because the codec is not processing noise.

Very little aliasing and moire - these are the two BIG problems with the Canons and it is virtually gone on the F3.

Clean HDMI out - this is great for recording to a ki pro, etc but also great for sending video to a switcher or a video village on bigger productions.

Size and price - if this little guy performs as well as people are hoping then it would be a great addition to current DSLR shooters kit.

F3 b-cam work - in my area the F3 is getting a lot of attention. I do a lot of b-cam work with DSLRs currently. If the F3 takes off the FS100 would be a perfect b-cam partner.

I agree that it is going to be a "love it or hate it camera". It looks like it has the DSLR ergonomics, for better or worse. For me it's great because I've already solved all my ergonomic issues and I can just plug this little camera body into my current rig.

Allan Barnwell · March 24th, 2011, 01:30 PM

Just being able to go out to a Ki Pro mini, Nano Flash, or like recorder is a big deal for many shooters. Not to mention how the body's design will improve builds for accessories.

Also - built in slow and quick (overcrank and undercrank) is big - something users really liked when the Panasonic HVX200 first came out and various cameras since.

I'll be curious to see what Canon has planned on their broadcast side next month at NAB.

Allan Barnwell
Omega Broadcast Group - Professional Video Sales, Rental & Services

Charlie Webster · March 26th, 2011, 12:40 PM

I have to agree the lack of ND is too bad. This might have something to do with the very short register of the e-mount. Not much room for it.

Drazen Stader · March 27th, 2011, 10:16 AM

Hi,

it seems that it is going to be a great camera...the fact that it doesnt have nd filters can be easily solved with matte box or varion nd filters...otherwise it seems a strong contender specially due its sensor size...strong competitor against the panasonic af-100...tough choice to decide which camera would be better...

March 24th, 2011, 04:16 AM	#1
Todd Mizomi Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Maui, Hawaii Posts: 141	Sony announces Pro version of the NEX camcorder Sony introduces Professional Grade NEX Camcorder the NEX-FS100JK Akihabara News __________________ Todd Mizomi Photographer/Videographer/Editor/Computer Guy Island Production Group Maui, Hawaii

March 24th, 2011, 04:53 AM	#2
Zhong Cheung Major Player Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: North Hollywood, CA Posts: 202	Re: Sony announces Pro version of the NEX camcorder Awesome! Can't wait.

March 24th, 2011, 09:39 AM	#3
Ryan Sarver New Boot Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 22	Re: Sony announces Pro version of the NEX camcorder No HD/SDI... I can understand this wanting to leave the more pro features on the F3. No ND filters....that I can't understand. NDs are on the most basic of prosumer cameras. That lack of feature alone makes we skip this and save for the F3....come on Sony.

March 24th, 2011, 09:52 AM	#4
Keith Forman Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Williamstown Mass Posts: 192	New DSLR killer It has all the features needed by pro videographers and very inexpensive! Sony Product Detail Page NEXFS100UK

March 24th, 2011, 11:01 AM	#5
Bob Willis Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico Posts: 292	Re: New DSLR killer No ND filter No HD-SDI output Only One card slot Very poor design and ergonomics

March 24th, 2011, 11:55 AM	#6
Brian Drysdale Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belfast, UK Posts: 6,143	Re: New DSLR killer Just about the same as a DSLR, but without the imaging artefacts. I suspect the Sony FS 100 is going to be one of those love it or hate cameras.

March 24th, 2011, 12:02 PM	#7
Chris Medico Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Efland NC, USA Posts: 2,322	Re: New DSLR killer I waited with baited breath for more info to be released about this cam only to {sigh} once it was released. Back to planning for a F3. {sigh} again. __________________ http://www.LandYachtMedia.com

March 24th, 2011, 12:10 PM	#8
Burk Webb Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 249	Re: New DSLR killer This thing sounds perfect for me! I love the F3 sensor, can't wait to get my hands on this little guy!

March 24th, 2011, 12:17 PM	#9
Chris Medico Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Efland NC, USA Posts: 2,322	Re: New DSLR killer It would be a great choice to replace shooting with a DSLR. Its not the best choice if you are looking to grow past the novelty of the large sensor. As much as I enjoy the artistic options the image of my 7d offers its a royal PITA to shot with on a bright day. My EX1r is a pleasure in contrast. I was hoping for something closer to the EX1 but it looks like the FS-100 will be closer to the 7d ergonomics wise. Sony is definitely drawing a line in the sand between the people that appreciate true professional cameras and those willing to put up with crap ergonomics to get DOF control. I'm going to take a serious look at the FS100 at NAB. I expect it to only complete the decision to save up more for a F3 or something with more practical features. Strictly my opinion. __________________ http://www.LandYachtMedia.com

March 24th, 2011, 01:02 PM	#10
Gianni Paolella Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: MILAN ITALY Posts: 82	Re: New DSLR killer Sorry but can sombody explane me the difference , in term of quality and sooting, betwen this new Sony camera (6500 $) and the Canon 7D ore better Mark2? APSC,cmos sensor (Super35??? What does it mean) No ND avchd 24 Mbits Ok XLR mic nice No all the lens you want No AF No zoom...and so on... Sorry but I am sure that with the same money I can Buy one Mark2 to all the best lens I want. Is it true?

March 24th, 2011, 01:22 PM	#11
Brian Drysdale Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belfast, UK Posts: 6,143	Re: New DSLR killer The resolution is better and you don't have the serious moire artefacts that the DSLRs have. Much less skew because it has a sensor designed for video rather than stills. No record time limits. Super 35 is a standard motion picture format, so you can use cine lenses if you want to. Perhaps more an advantage for having the option of the zooms than primes. You have the option to record on a Nanoflash or other outside recorders with time code using a superior codec. Someone on the other thread on the FS 100 says that the HDMI is 10 bit according to a Sony engineer, which is positive if correct.

March 24th, 2011, 01:22 PM	#12
Burk Webb Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 249	Re: New DSLR killer In my opinion the biggest reason to go with a FS100 are (and these are based on playing with the F3): Incredible low light performance - The F3 is incredibly clean in low light, even up to 6400 ISO. The low noise also translates into better bang for bit codec performance because the codec is not processing noise. Very little aliasing and moire - these are the two BIG problems with the Canons and it is virtually gone on the F3. Clean HDMI out - this is great for recording to a ki pro, etc but also great for sending video to a switcher or a video village on bigger productions. Size and price - if this little guy performs as well as people are hoping then it would be a great addition to current DSLR shooters kit. F3 b-cam work - in my area the F3 is getting a lot of attention. I do a lot of b-cam work with DSLRs currently. If the F3 takes off the FS100 would be a perfect b-cam partner. I agree that it is going to be a "love it or hate it camera". It looks like it has the DSLR ergonomics, for better or worse. For me it's great because I've already solved all my ergonomic issues and I can just plug this little camera body into my current rig.

March 24th, 2011, 01:30 PM	#13
Allan Barnwell Sponsor: Omega Broadcast Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 239	Re: New DSLR killer Just being able to go out to a Ki Pro mini, Nano Flash, or like recorder is a big deal for many shooters. Not to mention how the body's design will improve builds for accessories. Also - built in slow and quick (overcrank and undercrank) is big - something users really liked when the Panasonic HVX200 first came out and various cameras since. I'll be curious to see what Canon has planned on their broadcast side next month at NAB. Allan Barnwell Omega Broadcast Group - Professional Video Sales, Rental & Services

March 26th, 2011, 12:40 PM	#14
Charlie Webster Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Sun Valley, Idaho Posts: 81	Re: Sony announces Pro version of the NEX camcorder I have to agree the lack of ND is too bad. This might have something to do with the very short register of the e-mount. Not much room for it.

March 27th, 2011, 10:16 AM	#15
Drazen Stader Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Ljubljana, Slovenia Posts: 30	Re: Sony announces Pro version of the NEX camcorder Hi, it seems that it is going to be a great camera...the fact that it doesnt have nd filters can be easily solved with matte box or varion nd filters...otherwise it seems a strong contender specially due its sensor size...strong competitor against the panasonic af-100...tough choice to decide which camera would be better...