Thinking of going 4K with my FS700

Ian Whelan · January 15th, 2014, 05:56 AM

Hi all, I'm thinking of going down the $k route with my FS700, I have a few questions...

First, I need to upgrade my firmware... is there any real benefit to me upgrading the firmware if I don't go the 4K option? For example, I see you can record for longer periods of time with the slo-mo feature (I think) - is this available for regular recording?

I'm thinking of getting Odyssey7Q - once I get that with the firmware, can I then start recording 4k - if not, what else is required?

Also, can I record slo-mo to the Odyssey?

Sorry if these questions have been answered already!

Noah Yuan-Vogel · January 16th, 2014, 08:44 AM

The 4K upgrade is handy because it also gives you slog2 in camera and a REC709 800% gamma curve. That's about it, though. Slog2 can be very nice sine it fixes a few issues and gives you a known starting point, though its tough to monitor without luts.

And 7Q questions depend, are you asking about projected 7Q features or current? Currently you can only record 2K uncompressed RAW DNG and up to 240fps. No 4K and prores till they add it to the firmware but they say it's coming.

John Mastrogiacomo · January 16th, 2014, 10:12 PM

The CD firmware updates keep falling behind. They just missed another one a couple of days ago. Maybe it might be better to see if there are any new 4k cameras at NAB.

Noah Yuan-Vogel · January 17th, 2014, 01:23 PM

My understanding is their engineering team keeps working on all the features but they are mostly waiting for Apple to license them for Prores. Hopefully as soon as prores comes through they'll release a big firmware that adds that and whatever other features are ready. Either way it's still great just as a monitor and multi-stream monitor you can have now, and I imagine a itll still give you 4K sooner than waiting for another camera to show up.

Peter Walsh · January 27th, 2014, 06:52 PM

I'm sure I'm not the only one holding off on buying the 7Q until it offer ProRes. It's getting to be a long wait.

Shaun Roemich · January 27th, 2014, 09:37 PM

Dan states here they are waiting for Sony to license them for 4k.

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/converge...atus-7-7q.html

Dmitri Zigany · January 28th, 2014, 10:16 AM

As I understood it they are just hoping that Sony one they will let them do 4K raw and that it's not even up on the tables yet... As long as Sony sells some of their own recorders to FS700 owners that probably won't happen. Cause if the Q7 can do it, nobody will buy Sony's extremely impractical bazooka solution ;)

Leonard Levy · January 31st, 2014, 09:47 PM

Exactly which is why I am a little dubious it will ever come to pass.

January 15th, 2014, 05:56 AM	#1
Ian Whelan Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Wick Posts: 72	Thinking of going 4K with my FS700 - help! Hi all, I'm thinking of going down the $k route with my FS700, I have a few questions... First, I need to upgrade my firmware... is there any real benefit to me upgrading the firmware if I don't go the 4K option? For example, I see you can record for longer periods of time with the slo-mo feature (I think) - is this available for regular recording? I'm thinking of getting Odyssey7Q - once I get that with the firmware, can I then start recording 4k - if not, what else is required? Also, can I record slo-mo to the Odyssey? Sorry if these questions have been answered already!

January 16th, 2014, 08:44 AM	#2
Noah Yuan-Vogel Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 613	Re: Thinking of going 4K with my FS700 - help! The 4K upgrade is handy because it also gives you slog2 in camera and a REC709 800% gamma curve. That's about it, though. Slog2 can be very nice sine it fixes a few issues and gives you a known starting point, though its tough to monitor without luts. And 7Q questions depend, are you asking about projected 7Q features or current? Currently you can only record 2K uncompressed RAW DNG and up to 240fps. No 4K and prores till they add it to the firmware but they say it's coming.

January 16th, 2014, 10:12 PM	#3
John Mastrogiacomo Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 85	Re: Thinking of going 4K with my FS700 - help! The CD firmware updates keep falling behind. They just missed another one a couple of days ago. Maybe it might be better to see if there are any new 4k cameras at NAB.

January 17th, 2014, 01:23 PM	#4
Noah Yuan-Vogel Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 613	Re: Thinking of going 4K with my FS700 - help! My understanding is their engineering team keeps working on all the features but they are mostly waiting for Apple to license them for Prores. Hopefully as soon as prores comes through they'll release a big firmware that adds that and whatever other features are ready. Either way it's still great just as a monitor and multi-stream monitor you can have now, and I imagine a itll still give you 4K sooner than waiting for another camera to show up.

January 27th, 2014, 06:52 PM	#5
Peter Walsh Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: St. John's, NL Posts: 41	Re: Thinking of going 4K with my FS700 - help! I'm sure I'm not the only one holding off on buying the 7Q until it offer ProRes. It's getting to be a long wait.

January 27th, 2014, 09:37 PM	#6
Shaun Roemich Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia (formerly Winnipeg, Manitoba) Canada Posts: 4,088	Re: Thinking of going 4K with my FS700 - help! Dan states here they are waiting for Sony to license them for 4k. http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/converge...atus-7-7q.html __________________ Shaun C. Roemich Road Dog Media - Vancouver, BC - Videographer - Webcaster www.roaddogmedia.ca Blog: http://roaddogmedia.wordpress.com/

January 28th, 2014, 10:16 AM	#7
Dmitri Zigany Major Player Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 286	Re: Thinking of going 4K with my FS700 - help! As I understood it they are just hoping that Sony one they will let them do 4K raw and that it's not even up on the tables yet... As long as Sony sells some of their own recorders to FS700 owners that probably won't happen. Cause if the Q7 can do it, nobody will buy Sony's extremely impractical bazooka solution ;)

January 31st, 2014, 09:47 PM	#8
Leonard Levy Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,684	Re: Thinking of going 4K with my FS700 - help! Exactly which is why I am a little dubious it will ever come to pass.