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Christopher Witz · October 5th, 2007, 09:06 AM

Would it be possible to delete previous takes on/in camera to free up SXS space?

For instance.... lests say it takes 6 takes to get a scene right, and the 1st 5 are not worthy.... can you delete them on camera and keep the 6th take to free up room for the next scene(s)?

Also.... any news of an external reader for the SXS cards? fiewire ( bus powered )?

Michael Mann · October 5th, 2007, 09:27 AM

Let's push it a littler harder:
How about in-camera trimming a (much too long) scene? That would be really helpful.

Piotr Wozniacki · October 5th, 2007, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Mann

Let's push it a littler harder:
How about in-camera trimming a (much too long) scene? That would be really helpful.

Sci-fi aside, from what I understand you can browse and delete clips just like files.

And the current SxS Pro cards pricing should effectively stop anybody from shooting anything without real scenario of some kind, which will only improve the shots quality as well:)

Christopher Witz · October 5th, 2007, 10:40 AM

hopefully deleting clips will not cause any write slow downs.... and the cards can manage without any hiccups.

I'm working on a 2 month project right now with Z1's and the post time is really a pain with all the ff'ing to good takes. Looking forward to a cleaner and greener workflow!

so..... where do I find that 0% finance sony deal?

Simon Wyndham · October 6th, 2007, 05:00 AM

Yes, you can delete clips just as you can with the disc based cameras.

Michael Mann · October 6th, 2007, 05:30 AM

Good to hear, thanks.

Greg Boston · October 6th, 2007, 08:58 AM

Probably one of the best parts of being tapeless IMHO. Early on, with the disc based HD cameras, you could only peel the clips off in a one by one fashion from the last to the first. A firmware update brought random clip delete capability. As someone astutely observed, "How do you prevent severe disc file fragmentation with that capability?". The answer, for the disc based units anyway, is that you don't get back the space until it totals at least 30 seconds in duration. This cuts down on the laser jumping around which may be less of, if not a moot issue with the cards due to the access speed of RAM.

This is part of the beauty of the system. Learning to delete stuff ahead of time that will never be used saves time in the post process, and keeps your archive free of useless junk.

-gb-

Greg Boston · October 6th, 2007, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Christopher Witzke

the post time is really a pain with all the ff'ing to good takes. Looking forward to a cleaner and greener workflow!

Boy oh boy, Christopher. You are going to love this workflow. Having PREV and NEXT functions on the transport that work just like jumping between songs on a music CD, or chapters on a DVD. But you won't even use that in the post process. You'll be looking at a list of clips and you'll simply choose the ones you want to use, trim them, then copy that portion in a format your NLE can use. Cleaner and greener is an understatement!

-gb-

October 5th, 2007, 09:06 AM	#1
Christopher Witz Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 591	delete takes? Would it be possible to delete previous takes on/in camera to free up SXS space? For instance.... lests say it takes 6 takes to get a scene right, and the 1st 5 are not worthy.... can you delete them on camera and keep the 6th take to free up room for the next scene(s)? Also.... any news of an external reader for the SXS cards? fiewire ( bus powered )?

October 5th, 2007, 09:27 AM	#2
Michael Mann Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kelkheim, Germany Posts: 375	Let's push it a littler harder: How about in-camera trimming a (much too long) scene? That would be really helpful. __________________ Michael

October 6th, 2007, 05:30 AM	#6
Michael Mann Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kelkheim, Germany Posts: 375	Good to hear, thanks. __________________ Michael

October 5th, 2007, 10:40 AM	#4
Christopher Witz Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 591	hopefully deleting clips will not cause any write slow downs.... and the cards can manage without any hiccups. I'm working on a 2 month project right now with Z1's and the post time is really a pain with all the ff'ing to good takes. Looking forward to a cleaner and greener workflow! so..... where do I find that 0% finance sony deal?

October 6th, 2007, 05:00 AM	#5
Simon Wyndham Trustee Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Malvern UK Posts: 1,931	Yes, you can delete clips just as you can with the disc based cameras.

October 6th, 2007, 08:58 AM	#7
Greg Boston Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DFW area, TX Posts: 6,117 Images: 1	Probably one of the best parts of being tapeless IMHO. Early on, with the disc based HD cameras, you could only peel the clips off in a one by one fashion from the last to the first. A firmware update brought random clip delete capability. As someone astutely observed, "How do you prevent severe disc file fragmentation with that capability?". The answer, for the disc based units anyway, is that you don't get back the space until it totals at least 30 seconds in duration. This cuts down on the laser jumping around which may be less of, if not a moot issue with the cards due to the access speed of RAM. This is part of the beauty of the system. Learning to delete stuff ahead of time that will never be used saves time in the post process, and keeps your archive free of useless junk. -gb-