720p24 @60 frames per sec. at night at DVinfo.net

Chris Forbes · November 29th, 2007, 05:13 PM

This clip was captured the other night. With just the lights you see in the movie.
720p 24 over cranked to 60 p @ shutter of 96 @ 0db. It is untouched on the exposure just imported into FCP and exported as a Prores422

www.thevideodepartment.net/EX1/SloGatePRORES.mov

Sorry windows guys a PhotoJpeg version is coming soon while you wait here's a link to look at . . .

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL...cts/AppleStore

Just kidding. No flame wars.

Thanks to Barlow and his kids.

Chris Forbes · November 29th, 2007, 09:00 PM

Here is a windows version.

Broken link

Absolutely some of the cleanest blacks of any HD camera I have ever shot with.

Christopher Barry · November 29th, 2007, 10:55 PM

Chris, thanks for posting links.

As an Win XP user: I d/l the PhotoJPEG mov, and it shows "Error -2048: the file is not a movie file", when loaded into standard QT Player. Anyone else?

Bill Spence · November 29th, 2007, 11:07 PM

Same problem here. I can't open it in WMP, Quictime Player, VLC, or import into Vegas. It must have been uncoded wrong for windows.

Buba Kastorski · November 29th, 2007, 11:48 PM

What's the viewer for the files, it's not native .mov's

Joe Lawry · November 30th, 2007, 04:17 AM

The mac version looked beautiful blown up to 1920x1080 on my 24" dell.

Barlow Elton · November 30th, 2007, 11:59 AM

Thanks for letting me play with the camera, Chris!

Christopher Barry · November 30th, 2007, 10:55 PM

Chris, any chance of posting a few uncompressed still 720 frames, so we can play with them in post on the PC? Thanks

Chris Forbes · December 1st, 2007, 01:47 AM

Here are 4 .tiffs taken off the original footage. No color correction applied.

www.thevideodepartment.net/EX1/NTGW0001.tif
www.thevideodepartment.net/EX1/NTGW0002.tif
www.thevideodepartment.net/EX1/NTGW0003.tif
www.thevideodepartment.net/EX1/NTGW0004.tif

Christopher Barry · December 1st, 2007, 05:44 AM

Thanks Chris, I appreciate you posting those frames.

Paul Curtis · December 1st, 2007, 06:24 AM

I find it amazing that the camera is so detailed you can see the effects of 4:2:0 sampling/compression quite easily. Would be interesting to compare frames from the HDSDI out as well.

thanks, chris

paul

Steven Thomas · December 1st, 2007, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Curtis

I find it amazing that the camera is so detailed you can see the effects of 4:2:0 sampling/compression quite easily. Would be interesting to compare frames from the HDSDI out as well.

thanks, chris

paul

I'm sure SDI would look better, but please explain what in these images that make 4:2:0 so obvious?

Believe me we ALL want 4:2:0 (4:4:4 for that matter), but 4:2:0 can make some real nice images.
I plan on buying Cineform's recorder or the XDR to tap 4:2:0 via SDI.

I'm not hearing many people complain about the visuals of DVD, BluRay and HD-DVD, all of which are 4:2:0.
When it's said and done, unless you plan on going film transfer, this is the media format.

David Parks · December 1st, 2007, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Curtis

I find it amazing that the camera is so detailed you can see the effects of 4:2:0 sampling/compression quite easily. Would be interesting to compare frames from the HDSDI out as well.

thanks, chris

paul

I find the footage amazing...Talk about lattitude...That camera probably has the most exposure range I have ever seen in a digital camera. I think we can say goodbye to limited contrast ratio. In my opinion that was always a much bigger problem in the past than compression issues.

Excellent. Thanks for posting the footage.

Eric Lagerlof · December 1st, 2007, 12:05 PM

Thanks for the stills... I couldn't access the footage either. Pretty incredible to see details in both the lightpost fixture and the dark building doors in the 2nd shot. And the darker areas are so nice and clean.

M. Gene Hoffman · December 4th, 2007, 03:45 PM

Hey, thought that looked like the Gateway- very nice footage!

I am amazed at how clean it is, especially for being at night, and fast enough shutter to see detail, and 60fps.

Wow.

-M. Gene

November 29th, 2007, 05:13 PM	#1
Chris Forbes Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, Ut Posts: 155	720p24 @60 frames per sec. at night This clip was captured the other night. With just the lights you see in the movie. 720p 24 over cranked to 60 p @ shutter of 96 @ 0db. It is untouched on the exposure just imported into FCP and exported as a Prores422 www.thevideodepartment.net/EX1/SloGatePRORES.mov Sorry windows guys a PhotoJpeg version is coming soon while you wait here's a link to look at . . . http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL...cts/AppleStore Just kidding. No flame wars. Thanks to Barlow and his kids.

November 29th, 2007, 09:00 PM	#2
Chris Forbes Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, Ut Posts: 155	Here is a windows version. Broken link Absolutely some of the cleanest blacks of any HD camera I have ever shot with. Last edited by Chris Forbes; November 30th, 2007 at 12:34 AM.

November 30th, 2007, 11:59 AM	#7
Barlow Elton Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UT Posts: 945	Thanks for letting me play with the camera, Chris! Last edited by Barlow Elton; November 30th, 2007 at 09:16 PM.

December 4th, 2007, 03:45 PM	#15
M. Gene Hoffman Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lehi, UT Posts: 39	Great Footage Hey, thought that looked like the Gateway- very nice footage! I am amazed at how clean it is, especially for being at night, and fast enough shutter to see detail, and 60fps. Wow. -M. Gene

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November 29th, 2007, 10:55 PM	#3
Christopher Barry Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 107	Chris, thanks for posting links. As an Win XP user: I d/l the PhotoJPEG mov, and it shows "Error -2048: the file is not a movie file", when loaded into standard QT Player. Anyone else?

November 29th, 2007, 11:07 PM	#4
Bill Spence Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 29	Same problem here. I can't open it in WMP, Quictime Player, VLC, or import into Vegas. It must have been uncoded wrong for windows.

November 29th, 2007, 11:48 PM	#5
Buba Kastorski Trustee Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,414	What's the viewer for the files, it's not native .mov's

November 30th, 2007, 04:17 AM	#6
Joe Lawry Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 418	The mac version looked beautiful blown up to 1920x1080 on my 24" dell.

November 30th, 2007, 10:55 PM	#8
Christopher Barry Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 107	Chris, any chance of posting a few uncompressed still 720 frames, so we can play with them in post on the PC? Thanks

December 1st, 2007, 01:47 AM	#9
Chris Forbes Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, Ut Posts: 155	Here are 4 .tiffs taken off the original footage. No color correction applied. www.thevideodepartment.net/EX1/NTGW0001.tif www.thevideodepartment.net/EX1/NTGW0002.tif www.thevideodepartment.net/EX1/NTGW0003.tif www.thevideodepartment.net/EX1/NTGW0004.tif

December 1st, 2007, 05:44 AM	#10
Christopher Barry Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 107	Thanks Chris, I appreciate you posting those frames.

December 1st, 2007, 06:24 AM	#11
Paul Curtis Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: canterbury Posts: 411	I find it amazing that the camera is so detailed you can see the effects of 4:2:0 sampling/compression quite easily. Would be interesting to compare frames from the HDSDI out as well. thanks, chris paul

December 1st, 2007, 12:05 PM	#14
Eric Lagerlof Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 348	Thanks for the stills... I couldn't access the footage either. Pretty incredible to see details in both the lightpost fixture and the dark building doors in the 2nd shot. And the darker areas are so nice and clean.