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Brian Jansen December 5th, 2007 05:11 PM

matte box
 
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Has anyone fitted the EX with a matte box yet?
I added a 77mm clear digital protection filter, then 77mm to 82mm step-up ring and the Matteblox HD and large flag fits nicely. Nice monitor hoodie too.

Chris Forbes December 7th, 2007 02:27 PM

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Here is a Chrosziel 4x4 matte box on rods. If only the LCD would close.

Steven Thomas December 9th, 2007 10:58 AM

Anymore EX1 matte box solutions that are inexpensive, but also complete with bae, rails, and flags?
I don't want any additional weight on the lens.

Dennis Kane December 9th, 2007 11:30 AM

I talked to Brian Valente of Redrock last Wednesday at DVexpo and specifically requested from him that the new matt box will allow the use of graduated neutral density filters. I told Brian that I need to be able to raise the filters vertically and also rotate them at the same time and that this system will work on the new EX 1. Brian assured me that his matt box will do this
Dennis Kane

Vince Gaffney December 9th, 2007 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Steven Thomas (Post 789692)
Anymore EX1 matte box solutions that are inexpensive

Inexpensive and quality are two word rarely found in combination to describe a matte box/ rails/ baseplate system. However, Red Rock is getting ready to ship theirs in the coming months. You may want to look at that.

vince

Steven Thomas December 9th, 2007 11:57 AM

LOL, I knew that would be the first reply. ;)
Will the Red Rock be the cheaper attach to the lens or the full rail system ?

Vince Gaffney December 9th, 2007 12:05 PM

Full system. I have their follow focus, base plate and 2 sets of their rails. Excellent quality all around. I expect the upcoming matte box to be equally sound.

http://www.redrockmicro.com/microMattebox.html

vince

Steven Thomas December 9th, 2007 12:08 PM

Do you have an idea what entire rig - base, rails, matte box and flags will cost?

Vince Gaffney December 9th, 2007 12:15 PM

The word is the box is about 500. not sure on the side flags. the base plate is about 250, 75 - 100 per set of rails depending on length. Probably in the 1K neighborhood all in. You can go to their store online and check all of it out except for the actual matte box and wings.

vince

Alvise Tedesco December 9th, 2007 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dennis Kane (Post 789705)
I talked to Brian Valente of Redrock last Wednesday at DVexpo and specifically requested from him that the new matt box will allow the use of graduated neutral density filters. I told Brian that I need to be able to raise the filters vertically and also rotate them at the same time and that this system will work on the new EX 1. Brian assured me that his matt box will do this
Dennis Kane

I think there has been some kind of misunderstanding between you. Brian is enthusiast on the EX1, but from pictures and measures IT LOOKS (at least to me) like Redrock mattebox can't be a perfect (so..raise/rotate grads) fit for the EX1. For sure ok with an EX1+35 adapter, but that's a different story!

Chris Forbes December 11th, 2007 10:24 PM

Chrosziel has announced their Matte box for the EX-1

http://16x9inc.com/products/chroszie...40-03ex1k.html

Bill Spence December 11th, 2007 11:11 PM

That was the link for the sunshade. The link for the mattebox is here:

http://16x9inc.com/products/chrosziel/ac-450-ex1k.html

Jiri Bakala December 11th, 2007 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Forbes (Post 788912)
Here is a Chrosziel 4x4 matte box on rods. If only the LCD would close.

I am not sure whether I am seeing it right but did you turn the trays upside down? Someone somewhere suggested that if the trays are accessible from the bottom, the matte box fits with the LCD and all. It would be a pain in the neck when used with rods because it would essentially mean removing the matte just to replace a filter but at least the LCD should close properly.

If only someone could hammer it into the SONY designers' heads that these cameras will be used with matte boxes and most likely with better external microphones so that they stop putting in the built-in mikes and make some room for the matte boxes. How bloody difficult is this?

Chris Forbes December 12th, 2007 12:02 AM

I did turn the trays upside down. And with the mount for the matte box at the end of the rods they go in and out easily. I just need to figure out that LCD thing.

Brian Jansen December 12th, 2007 06:53 PM

The Cavison Matte Box is worth a try as well. It looks like a tight fit but it clears with the LCD closed.

http://www.cavision.com/pictures/EX1...SPWM-EX1-2.htm

Anyone here using this can maybe comment on it? Looks like a medium priced
solution.

Jim Michael December 12th, 2007 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince Gaffney (Post 789721)
Full system. I have their follow focus, ...

Is the focus by wire or mechanical?

Leonard Levy December 13th, 2007 12:15 AM

Alvise,
Why won't the Redrock mattebox work with the EX-1?

Alvise Tedesco December 13th, 2007 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Leonard Levy (Post 791573)
Alvise,
Why won't the Redrock mattebox work with the EX-1?

I hope I'm wrong. I'm just speculating based on the fact RR mattebox appears, on pictures, bulkier (swing away function /Red compatibility).
then, say, a Chrosziel

Kit Hannah December 13th, 2007 03:47 AM

Hey Brian Jansen,
What did your setup cost by the way? Looks pretty cool. Damn I am in love with this camera.....

Brian Jansen December 13th, 2007 08:25 PM

Kit
I got this at http://www.cinetactics.com

You can get just a matte box < get the HD version for 16x9 > and it comes with a flag or add a large flag if you want. The box can use 4x4 filters but there is no way to rotate filters < unless you remove flag and rotate the whole box >
This low cost solution folds up flat and is simple to pack in a small camera bag.

Serena Steuart December 14th, 2007 01:39 AM

Just got my EX1 and the Chrosziel made for the Z1 fits fine (can park the LCD). There is no problem inserting filter trays from the bottom -- been doing that for some time. Agree that it would be better without that mic in that position, but that's how it is!

Leonard Levy December 14th, 2007 01:42 AM

So is the problem that the mic interferes?
Can you lose the mic or is it built in?

Serena Steuart December 14th, 2007 02:07 AM

No, that mic is built in. Not interfere so much as just in the way. However with the Z1/FX there is the same problem and I don't find bottom access to the filter trays to be troublesome. Of course you must have the rails right back.

Kit Hannah December 14th, 2007 03:31 AM

Thanks Brian. Looks very interesting!
Kit

Ryan Avery December 31st, 2007 06:04 PM

Filters for your matte box:

http://www.schneideroptics.com/Ecomm....aspx?CID=1431

Ryan Avery
Schneider Optics

Brian Jansen December 31st, 2007 11:03 PM

Cavision also has single filters as well as a nicely priced kit of 5.

http://www.cavision.com/filters/4x4.htm

Alessandro Zumstein January 1st, 2008 03:53 AM

Use 4x5,65 filters
 
Is better when used 4x5,56 and put at 45° because when not, is the wideangle "effect" limited


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