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Andrew Hollister July 23rd, 2008 10:05 AM

Sony XDCAM EX NLE Workflow Guides
 
From FreshDV (if you don't know about this site, you should)
Quote:

For those new to the XDCAM EX workflow, here are a few guides from Sony that will help you get all your non-linear editing ducks in a row. They have PDF workflow guides available for Apple Final Cut Pro, Avid NewsCutter, Thomson Grass Valley EDIUS and Sony Vegas 8.
On to the Sony micro-site
http://tinyurl.com/DVinfo

•Apple Final Cut Pro
•Avid NewsCutter
•Thomson Grass Valley EDIUS
•Sony Vegas 8

Nothing for Premiere Pro. But I bet you could hack something together from the others.

Sami Sanpakkila July 27th, 2008 11:18 AM

What mics to get for EX1? Shooting backstage footage with 16 people
 
Hi!

Im going to shoot backstage, travel footage on a tour that features 16 musicians. I have my EX1, only one camera. Im thinking either getting two wireless mics and use the EX1 mic, or maybe one wireless and one shotgun. Does anyone have experience on how to handle this kinda situations? You need to capture the action and jokes as it happens with no time to set-up or mic individuals so maybe a shotgun would be best? And then use wireless for a little more planned situations?

Which mics you would recommend? 500-800 euros would be my budget for the mics.

Thanks!

Sami

Brian Rhodes July 30th, 2008 05:58 AM

Review of the EX3 by: BHphoto
 
Review of the EX3 by: Doug Jensen


http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/find/n...onyPMW-EX3.jsp

Marius Boruch July 30th, 2008 08:41 AM

lease program/ financing for EX3
 
Anybody knows about some lease or special financing for EX3 from Sony or retailers???

Andy Wilkinson August 3rd, 2008 02:53 PM

Sony PrimeSupport (in EU) for PMW-EX3
 
Well, I finally found time tonight to sit down and try and register for my prime support for the EX3 on www.sonybiz.net/primesupport. And guess what, the EX3 is not yet listed in the 2nd page of the process where you have to select the model number from a drop down list!

Just posting this so others know to wait a few days for Sony to catch up with the fact that EX3's are now being delivered! :-)

Paul Chiu August 4th, 2008 07:21 PM

$500 NAB 2008 Rebate Check
 
Just received the $500 NAB 2008 rebate check today.
send the forms back on 5/27, so about 10 weeks.

to refresh your memory, this was for attendees of the Sony NAB 2008 trade show in las vegas last april 2008.

John McCully August 6th, 2008 07:52 PM

Fireworks, a helicopter and the EX1
 
The client wants SD PAL 16:9 footage to mix with other footage shot with high end pro SD cameras on the ground for broadcast TV in PAL land.

I must deliver SD PAL 16:9 footage, of the highest quality. I have three cameras: a FX1, a V1P and an EX1. The EX1 is my preferred camera for the shoot but hardly a preference based on much experience.

The subject includes two scenarios both shot from a Hughes 500C rear door removed: the first a daytime sporty shot following a jet boat up a tight river canyon, no more than one hour shooting. The second a series of shots of a fireworks display, yes, at night of course, and over a three hour period at most. (How safe is this, do you think?)

So my questions are: which camera, what settings, and suggestions regarding workflow please most appreciated.

Craig Seeman, if you are here, many thanks, I have viewed your EX1 fireworks footage at Vimeo, very nice, I note your settings, I shall take that as a point-of-departure if shooting with the EX1. Given that this will be shot out of a helicopter and delivered down-converted to SD would you change anything? How about shooting 720p slo-mo 60 frames/second and printing back to tape DV PAL widescreen from Vegas 8, or is that asking for trouble? Yes, I know; the client wants (vanilla) SD 16:9 PAL.

I recently shot footage using this helicopter type and the EX1, normal daylight, lovely day with minimal cloud, 1080 30p, auto everything as other than keeping the camera pointed more-or-less in the right direction I was powerless…and that footage, rendered off in Vegas using the DVDA Pal widescreen template, looks just peachy, the resultant DVD a pleasure to behold on any half-decent neighbourhood TV screen.

Trouble is I can’t even do any test shots as fireworks are heavily regulated here in New Zealand. I’m told it’s illegal, without a special permit, to sell and/or ignite fireworks at any time other than a 3 day period in November, something to do with that English crazy terrorist Mr. Fawkes.

Suggestions most appreciated...

Perrone Ford August 12th, 2008 10:01 AM

Safety Zone
 
I've noticed on the EX1 (and I suppose other cameras) that there is a "safety zone" frame that is available.

Now this may seem a rather rudimentary question, but exactly is it there for? I could understand if you were using it near 95% or so to simulate what might be lost behind the bezel of a television, but with settings down to 80% on the EX1, why is it there?

I wish it would go to 67% so that I could have a 1280x720 guide frame, but this is not an option.

Thoughts?

Matt Davis August 14th, 2008 03:19 AM

EX1's Standard Definition SDI output - any good?
 
I have been asked to bring my EX1 along to a vision mixed multi-camera shoot but don't want want to disappoint too much. Quite frankly, it's a sort of Z1/MX50 level gig rather than a full-on OB but somebody has an SDI vision mixer with the equivalent of TBCs, and two of us have EX1s.

Anyone tried this combo? Does the better glass and wider latitude win over the slightly crunchy image? Or should I dust off the Z1s?

Or should I be recommending SD Analogue component? Have to be careful that we can get a VM that takes Component and TBC's it as we can't do genlock.

Chuck Wall August 14th, 2008 09:16 AM

rebate 8 gb card for ex3
 
Hi

Just ordered an EX3 from a NY Dvinfo sponsor and was told there will be an 8gb card offered by sony via the sony website on Aug 15th!

Chuck

Peter Wright August 16th, 2008 09:54 PM

EX1 Shutter speed question
 
I'm shooting this afternoon for the first time in SP mode - 1440 x 1080 50i, to match up with two other HDV cameras.

I notice that I don't have the option of 1/50 shutter speed, but 1/60.

I've had a test shoot and it looks ok, but I was surprised I couldn't select 1/50.

Anyone know why?

Cheers.

EDIT - I've had a search and read, and it seems switching shutter off will give me 1/50, same as frame rate.

Brian Rhodes August 23rd, 2008 05:46 AM

Sony XDCAM Viewer PDZ-Vx10 version 2.11
 
Sony XDCAM Viewer PDZ-Vx10 version 2.11

I give this player to my clients so they can view the raw mxf files it also as four channels of audio.

https://servicesplus.us.sony.biz/son...l-PDZVX10.aspx

John Hedgecoe August 23rd, 2008 06:53 AM

Playing EX1 footage on HP2133
 
Just thought I would let people know that I can play EX1 mxf footage on my HP 2133 (mini-note) using VLC Player. It is not quite 100%, but I would say it ranks about 98% or 99% as it has very few hiccups.

I had also tried the Sony XDCAM Viewer, and it was horrible, maybe 40% (or less).

I should also add that I have the 1.2GHz version of the 2133, so I would guess the 1.6GHz version should be able to play 100%. I am also running Windows XP Pro SP3.

Hope this is of use/interest to someone.

Craig Hollenback August 24th, 2008 06:22 PM

EX1 and Sony RGB monitor
 
I have an older Sony SD monitor that accepts RGB plus sync in. I would like to use the monitor with the EX1 and RGB in. There was an old trick that if you fed the composite out of the camera into the sync in and then the rgb's into the appropriate inputs all would work. in the EX1 's case the composite out gets diabled when RGB out is selected (thanks sony) any thoughts?
Best, Craig

Sean Seah August 25th, 2008 11:13 AM

PMW-EX3 Camera Tour Video
 
PMW-EX3 Camera Tour on Vimeo

This guy took delivery of his EX3 n did a first hand intro for EX3 prospective owners. Chk it out. It isn't on HD as I understand due to a bandwidth problem.

Marco Neiva August 27th, 2008 05:12 AM

2 Sony XDCAM EX1 to make a 3D video
 
hi all,

i use 2 EX1 in my most recent work 3D in stereoscopy.

the end result is very good in 3D.

more info: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/3d-stereo...-portugal.html

I need opinions,

thanks, Marco Neiva.

Nick Wilson August 28th, 2008 05:48 PM

v1.11 Firmware - 'Push AF' Behaviour
 
Hi

Could someone with v1.11 firmware check whether the 'Push AF' button now focuses only when pressed (like the Z1 and many others) or whether it still auto-focuses until the camera decides to stop?

Cheers, Nick

Phil Bloom August 29th, 2008 01:18 PM

backing up SXS to U1
 
Has anyone done this yet, if so could you explain how it is done.

Am not very PC literate and it is confusing me!!

Benjamin Eckstein August 31st, 2008 12:04 PM

EX-1 and Red Rock Mattebox and Ewa-Marine Housing
 
Not all used together, but this week I was shooting a doco on Cape Cod and the director had the new Red Rock Mattebox which we used with my EX-1. We were shooting with stock camera, no adapter. The mattebox itself is quite nice and definitely a bargain for the money (compared with items like the Chrosziel). Solid construction indeed. Its big. We were doing some handheld shooting on a boat and it was heavy. The current configuration does not allow you to close the LCD which is annoying. Apparently Red Rock is making a little extender donut type device to move the mattebox away from the lens and clear the LCD/mic. There are some existing lens hoods that I guess do the trick to. The problem I see with this is that when the lens is fully wide you will have to use larger 4x5.6 inch filters to avoid seeing the side of the filters. We were using 4x4s and even with the mattebox close to the EX-1 lens I had to remove the furthest out filter tray because I was catching some edges of the tray. If using a 35mm adapter I think 4x4s will be no problem, but as a mattebox for just the EX-1 it may pose a few configuration problems. And again, its big, and the swing away is unnecessary for the EX-1 itself. But still quite nice and I will likely get one, but may look for something smaller when I am not using the adapter.

We also shot that week with a new Ewa-Marine splashbag (the VEX1, I think). We were shooting some reenactment pirate scenes with rain machines and it worked very well at protecting the camera. It has a little sleeve for the LCD which is nice, as well as little indented nipples to get to all the controls and buttons. Its a little tight to get in and out, but it seems very secure and dry. Just be careful of letting the thing overheat. We were shooting at night with cold rain, but I would not let it sit in the sun with the camera on or the bag will become a sauna. We also took it for a dive to do one underwater shot. Now I had never done any underwater filming and in fact it was my first open water dive. The bag is rated to 30 feet deep. We went about 15. I was shocked at how much the air compressed out of the bag and it was so vacuum sealed that it made getting to the controls pretty impossible. I think a Gates or similar housing would be much better for serious underwater work, but for much less money it did the trick.

B

Fraser Howard August 31st, 2008 02:32 PM

mxf to mov
 
I'm interested in providing 1920x1080p footage from my EX1 to iStockvideo and pond5 etc. for sale as stock clips and I would be most grateful for any light anyone can shed on the following file format issue.

Here is iStockvideo's FAQ on acceptable formats which is pretty typical for the prosumer stock-footage industry as far as I can tell:

Clips must be encoded with MJPG-A/B, PhotoJPEG, DV, or HDV, at BEST setting.
royalty free stock photography community | iStockphoto.com

Using Vegas Pro 8.0b, I have rendered my EX1, 1920x1080p mxf clips to all of the above Quicktime 7 *.MOV formats (including MPEG-4 Video) with predictably shaky results except for HDV. The HDV render at 1280x720p yields the best looking results but obviously it's noticeably down-sampled.

These same original mxf clips playback perfectly from the timeline in Full Preview mode and they look good @ 1920x1080p when rendered as Main Concept AVC/AAC (*.mp4) - not acceptable to iStock.

Bottom Line: How can I satisfy iStock's .MOV format requirements without downrezing my footage? Does Main Concept have a solution for this? I can't find one. Or Sony? Or Apple? Ideally, can I re-wrap a .mxf file in a .mov wrapper (using a PC)? ...

Sean Seah September 3rd, 2008 10:30 AM

High Freq Pitch with Senny Wireless ME2
 
I recorded myself speaking to the Senny ew112e wireless kit with the moni ME2 mic. I was only a meter away. The recording had a high pitch sound before I spoke. Once I started talking it was unnoticable. EX1 was set to auto for the audio. -41db, linked AGC, 1kHz tone on. The mic was set to -20db.

What can be the cause of this high pitch? I removed it with a HPF but my voice became less sharp which I didnt quite like. Is it the 1Khz thingy? If yes, may I understand what is the purpose of the tone?

Thks!

David Lorente September 10th, 2008 04:57 AM

Paper prints from still frames
 
Has any one of you tried to make prints in photographic paper from footage of the EX? I've just tried, and the results are amazing!

Of course, the use of progressive footage is almost imperative. I've extracted some frames from the same dance festival I put some clips a week ago (shutter was set to 1/100th of second to get good stills), and tried different sizes of paper.

At 20x25 cm. (8x10 in.), the pixel starts to become visible, without being objectionable (to my taste, and to the taste of most of the customers). And the advantage of choosing the exact frame where the dancers are in a good position and without eyes closed blows up the inconvenience of the "limited" resolution.

And colors are just nice! Only correction I had to do was to adapt the file gamma to that of the laboratory's printer, just a "Levels" correction in Photoshop, setting the central slider to 1.4, and here you go.

Mark Boardman September 10th, 2008 02:08 PM

1080 60i in a 1080 24p FCP timeline problem
 
Excuse me if this has been addressed before but my search didn't really seem to find a solution.

Who here has the best solution to convert 1080i60 to play nicely in a 1080 24p FCP timeline?
Simple De-interlacing still has a bit of judder. I tried a conversion in After Effects via Video Co-Pilots preset but still have judder. It is a jib shot but not awfully fast. I've never used Cinema Tools. Is that an option really?

Gerson Becker September 11th, 2008 07:21 PM

EX-30 and 32Gig
 
Hi,
Any one tried a 32 Gig card with an EX-30?
Thanks

Gérson

Chris Hurd September 12th, 2008 01:17 PM

JVC Alliance with Sony to Support XDCAM EX
 
See the news at: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/digital-v...-xdcam-ex.html
-- please use that thread for any replies (thanks in advance).

Jason Davenport September 15th, 2008 10:37 PM

ACM-21 adapter
 
Using my adapter for shoot tomorrow, had to put on CamMate jib today.
Just an FYI, works great. Works with Canon or Fuji lens-adapter port just simulates the port on any bigger camera, under port for zoom control works as well.

Just don't drop it!!!$$$$$

Ross Herewini September 16th, 2008 07:50 AM

Copying clips between cards
 
I can copy one clip at a time between cards, but is there some way to copy all of the clips from one card to another?

Brian Cassar September 17th, 2008 11:21 PM

Counter facility on the EX3
 
I'm trying to find the "counter" facility on the EX3 but cannot find it - I'm assuming that it is not available.

There is the timecode option or the UB option or the duration option. Usually on shoulder mounted cameras there is also a counter option where one can reset the counter to 00:00:00 at any time (without resetting the timecode).

I've also checked the menu but with no luck. Any help?

Andy Nickless September 20th, 2008 11:23 PM

Where'd My SxS Card Capacity Go?
 
I have two 8 Gb SxS Cards in my EX1.
I always format the cards in camera (rather than delete clips).

Both slots in the EX1 show 28 mins available when the cards are freshly formatted.
(Shooting 1080 25p).

I start recording using card A in Slot A and when it's full, the camera automatically starts recording to slot B but when I download the BPAV files, I find that card A's BPAV is only 4.7 Gb (showing 0 mins available in camera) whereas card B's (from slot B) is over 7 GB.

I have yet to try swapping the cards (use card A in slot B etc) but intend to do that today.

Anyone have a similar experience or knowledge of this problem?

Ray Bell September 21st, 2008 05:13 PM

Another remote control
 
Manfrotto 521EX - REMOTE CONTROL SONY EX1

Jack Davis October 7th, 2008 04:04 PM

wide angle on ex3
 
I am looking at an ex3 because of it's interchange lens capabilities. I have an ex1 and very happy but have made a number of compromises to obtain a super wide angle view ( a Bolex lens mounted on the ex1). I am looking at what is available in the super wide 1/2" for the ex3.

Fujinon makes 1 ultra wide (XS13x35RMM) which looks like a 16mm in 35mm terms. I haven't seen any canon 1/2" to compare. Any other suggestions??

Also, have they or do they make a fixed lens in a super wide?

Thanks

Chris Medico October 10th, 2008 10:31 PM

How to convert EX1 MOV files for Windows
 
OK. I've had a problem where I needed to convert some EX1 files from the MOV wrapper to something that Avid Liquid 7.2 could read. After a lot of struggling I have found a way. Here is my solution:

Software you'll need:

FFMPEG
MPEG Streamclip 1.2

Here is how you do it.

Put all of the MOV files you want to convert into a folder and use FFMPEG to extract the video to M2V (if you need the command line to do this let me know. I have a small script that does the whole folder at once).

Then...

Run "MPEG Streamclip" on the same MOV files and extract the audio to AIFF. The batch feature makes this easy too.

When you are done you will have 3 files for each one you started with. The original MOV, one M2V and one AIFF. From there you can rename all of the AIFF files to WAV files and bring them into your windows program. Avid Liquid handles the M2V and WAV files fine.

But wait.. theres more! :)

If you need the audio and video in the same file then all you have to do is run the M2V and AIFF files back through "MPEG Streamclip" and it will mux them as a batch into a single file. FFMPEG will also do this but its harder to do because you have to do it one at a time. Its easy to do a folder at once with "MPEG Streamclip".

I've gone through it a few times now and it does work. You are not transcoding the video during any of this so you are not suffering any generation losses either.

I hope this helps someone else out there.

Erik Phairas October 12th, 2008 09:38 AM

Got my EX3
 
I posted my first impressions already but I wanted to celebrate this moment proper. It's been a long time since I had a prosumer camera and honestly I just didn't see anything that excited me enough to buy another. Last one I had was a Pro line Panasonic F2 from way back in the 80s. I've had various consumer cameras since then with varying degrees of picture quality, but I've always kept my eye on the prosumer market. I knew one day I would see the right camera come out and I would buy.

Damn near bought an EX1, I was really tempted, but it just seemed like a bit of polish on the design and the ergonomics or something was a bit off. Then the EX3 came out and it was love at first sight. Time to buy. Wasn't easy either, even with inflation the 2 grand Panasonic F2 doesn't equal out to 8 grand in modern money I believe.

Enough of that though, I love the EX3 and the fact that the camera design doesn't talk down to you, you need to learn how to get what you want from it, makes it all the better. Love it. Very happy with the pictures I am getting and as I learn the camera that will only improve...

I made a little video to celebrate my EX3, sort of like my version of the Philip Bloom/Derek Corba EX3 tour. PLEASE forgive my green screen, it was my first try.. LOL and I think my white balance was off but you get the idea. Not only am I learning the EX3 but Sony Vegas too...:)

Also some direct comparisons to my SR11 in that.

Sony PMW EX3 xdcam demo on Vimeo

Here is a backup video on youtube.
YouTube - Sony PMW EX3 xdcam demo

Kalunga Lima October 16th, 2008 10:32 AM

Shooting XDcam EX in PAL country for Apple TV playout
 
Thanks Rob Collins for the Apple TV suggestion to my previous MacMini Post.

Here's a new question:

If I'm going to shoot HD with an EX1 in a PAL country (I usually shoot 1080/25p) specifically for SD DVD (Pal) and HD playout on an AppleTV what format shout I shoot, given that Apple TV specs, even in PAL countries appears to be 24p?

Tanx

Robert Bale October 16th, 2008 07:56 PM

re colors ex3
 
Hi, i am getting close to what i want from my color set up,just wantes to know i want to add a bit more contrast to the black, but i need to sitll be able to shoot in low light, any ideas ?

rob.

Paul Kellett October 21st, 2008 10:09 AM

No timecode in 720/50p
 
I've just been looking at some clips on my vegas timeline, i ran a script, "add timecode to media", all the clips had timecode except for the 720/50p clips, they started at 00.00.00.
I had all formats on the timeline at the same time,1080/50 SQ, 1080/50i HQ, 1080/25p and the 720/50p, all were showing the correct timecode apart from 720/50p.

Any suggestions ?
I was using the transcend/kensington combo at the time, i think i read somewhere on this forum about problems with timecode using the card combo, but i can't find it now.

Paul.

Ned Soltz October 25th, 2008 06:25 AM

Share Your Favorite Picture Profile Recipes
 
I'm doing a presentation at DVExpo in LA on the EX-3 (with reference to EX-1, of course) and was wondering whether any of our users here would like to share your favorite picture profile recipes.

I obviously will just not be copying and distributing any of the profiles listed on the board without permission.

I would prefer a text or Word file containing your settings, your comments on the "look" this profile generates, and of course your name and permission to distribute it. All submissions will be attributed.

Please PM me or send email via the board.

Ned Soltz

Jeff DeMaagd October 26th, 2008 09:36 AM

EX3 in West Michigan?
 
Are there any EX3 owners in the West Michigan area?

For those that didn't notice the other threads, I am collaborating with Ted O'Malley on a shoulder mount / tripod mount reinforcement base for the EX3, but I don't have an EX3 camera. I have all other equipment, materials & experience needed (check my web page link in my profile), just not the camera itself. Ted is in a relatively distant state, so I need to find an EX3 that is closer to me.

I need to make several measurements and get an in-person feel for the overall form. I would appreciate it if I can find someone willing to let me do that locally. I expect to only need two or three half-hour sessions, the owner / user can be present the whole time. I can drive you you, and I'm willing to make it worth your while.

Please let me know through private message or email.

Thank you!

Jeff Rhode October 27th, 2008 06:10 PM

looking for EX1 owner in Northern NJ
 
Hey guys.

I am looking for an EX1 owner in northern NJ to test a prototype bracket that I have made for the EX1. I would need the testing to be done this weekend--nothing serious, just mount the bracket and shoot a bit and give me your feedback. As compensation I will give you a free bracket when they are produced. It would help if you use a wireless receiver like the Sennheiser Evolution.

You can email me at Jrodinfo@verizon.net.

Thanks !

Dan Chung October 29th, 2008 01:17 PM

EX3 + Canon KH20 settings ?
 
Does anyone know if it is possible to calibrate the CA of the Canon KH20 on the EX3 in the menu yet? I have no idea what all the settings in the lens profile bit do and would appreciate some help.

Dan


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