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Joel Klein February 4th, 2008 06:05 PM

ex1 in wedding hall
 
http://download.yousendit.com/12FB9B06435F2242



Take a look on the lighting condition that would surly screw up a pd170, dvx100. Etc.

HQ 1920 1080 30p
Auto focus...
Shutter 1/60
No Picture profile, only manual white balance.

I did not use ANY NLE...
Out of the XDCAM transfer, into compressor.
I used the 90 min best quality SD template, but I choose CBR 8.0
I added +10 sharpness IN compressor
THAT’S IT!

The EX-1 rocks!
Enjoy

Brad Vaughan February 4th, 2008 06:35 PM

Nice clear image!

David Hadden February 25th, 2008 11:27 PM

Link has Expired, can't see it.

Joel Klein February 26th, 2008 11:23 AM

i'm doing a new link . stand by

Joel Klein February 26th, 2008 11:29 AM

try this new link
 
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.ph...FA5F27223BA2CA


or this

Link: http://download.yousendit.com/2EFA5F27223BA2CA

enjoy!

Dennis Schmitz February 26th, 2008 01:57 PM

THX for reposting :)

Hmm, clean but oversharpened.
I would recommened only applying sharpening in post.
The sharpening of the EX1 seems to cause the jaggies visible around the JVC logo (we had a conversation about bad SD-quality, Detail=on is evil for resizing).


regards Dennis

Joel Klein February 26th, 2008 03:20 PM

detail was off!

i did a 10% sharpen in compressor

you said clean but oversharpened, i dont see it thet way

David Hadden February 26th, 2008 03:34 PM

I would never have been able to get such good looking images of his face with my DVX w/o some kind of fill light. This is the camera for me, but I think I'm waiting till after NAB to buy ( assuming I can convince my newly pregnant wife and not so silent business partner to not use the money for baby things that we can get from my sisters who want to get rid of their baby things now that they're done :) ).

Dave

Kevin Walsh March 5th, 2008 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Davidson (Post 833552)
( assuming I can convince my newly pregnant wife and not so silent business partner to not use the money for baby things that we can get from my sisters who want to get rid of their baby things now that they're done :) ).

Dave

LOL!
You took the words right out of my mouth!

Uli Mors March 6th, 2008 02:45 AM

Hi,

could you re-re-post the upload?

thanks

uli

Joel Klein March 6th, 2008 03:38 PM

Link: http://download.yousendit.com/4F225A8112DB48F0

Uli Mors March 7th, 2008 01:57 AM

Great , thanks.

Just downloading the file...

Sean Seah March 7th, 2008 04:16 AM

Hi. How do u manage the lack of memory issue? I think the SxS last a tag to short right? U have a on site laptop to do the transfer I guess?

Noa Put March 7th, 2008 04:26 AM

"Take a look on the lighting condition that would surly screw up a pd170, dvx100. Etc."

Sure, the ex1 can produce an image many sd cams can only dream of but in what way would a pd170 scr*w up the lighting condition in a scene like that, have you ever work with one? I have a vx2100 and know for sure that it can handle a low light scene like that without any problem.

Uli Mors March 7th, 2008 04:38 AM

Hi,

I use VX2000 for weddings , too.

There are REALLY BAD lowlight situations (DJ has only one or two lights that even dont light the whole dancefloor - and rest of the room is candle light illumination...). VX2000 makes it reasonably well... I am SO curious how the EX1 would keep up with that...

KR

ULI

Joel Klein March 8th, 2008 10:48 PM

i know pd170 is best for low light, the ex1 is even better and cleaner at low light, but my posted demo focus on a different issu, the issu about CCD when pointing at direct light bulbs! the ex1 capture the entire frame perfect! the lights are there, the shadow is there, and the dark is there too, in other word, in my demo, there are many different lightings, and no storng light is taiking over.

Joel Klein March 8th, 2008 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Seah (Post 838681)
Hi. How do u manage the lack of memory issue? I think the SxS last a tag to short right? U have a on site laptop to do the transfer I guess?

yes I got 2 8gig, and 1 16gig and a macbook pro

Sean Seah March 9th, 2008 11:22 AM

wow nice setup!

Adam Forgione March 9th, 2008 11:44 AM

[QUOTE=Joel
I added +10 sharpness IN compressor
THAT’S IT!

The EX-1 rocks!
Enjoy[/QUOTE]

where do you fins the sharpness parameter, do you mean sharpen edge (0-100) under the filters tab of compressor settings?

Joel Klein March 9th, 2008 04:53 PM

Yes sir! And that little trick a learned from one the Thread's at this forum, I forgot the name. I can spend some time searching it if needed, that Thread is a good to know for a ex1 user

Joel Klein March 9th, 2008 05:01 PM

I found the thread!
 
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...d=1#post816158

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herre is a 'cut' fom the above thread about adding sharpnes:

...Right... last week I got to play with an EX-1 and on Saturday I worked on a way to make downconverted footage look as good as a high end DSR-450 with a lens that cost $18k.

The SD sequence in FCP needed to be set to progressive by selecting the Sequence Properties and setting field dominance to 'none' in the first tab. In the second tab, set everything to render in extended 10 bit, best quality rescale (in other words, turn everything up to '11'). Finally, apply a 10% sharpen to the whole sequence (assuming you've turned detail off whilst shooting). That adds the zing and makes the built in lens look like a $12000 lens when downconverted.

Just dumping EX-1 footage into a raw DV timeline was distinctly 'bleah'. The above method sat well with DSR-450 material that was being sent to me. I'm sold on it.


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