Best format to shoot for PAL DVD at DVinfo.net

Greg Hawkes · February 19th, 2008, 06:02 AM

Hi

Trying to assess which format produces the best looking PAL DVD.

I am using Vegas 8b and so after ingesting MSX clips via the clip brower I edit the a sequence then render directly to PAL wide screen DVD, import to DVD Architect 4 and then burn the DVD directly from the program.

I am assessing the DVD both on wide screen CRTs and a LCD TV.

So far have tried 3 of the HQ formats but not HQ 1080/25P or HQ 720/25P.

(shutter off in all cases)

Your views apreciated.

All fairly static scenes (local pub, village, my garden etc)

Have notices some picture shimmering whilst panning the camera. This stops when the camera stops.

Encoded bit rate in DVD architect 6 average 7.5 max mb/sec.

Bob Grant · February 19th, 2008, 06:32 AM

Make certain that in Vegas you specifiy a deinterlace method in the project properties (Blend fields is best if not much motion) and encode at Best.
You may get issues with line twitter / aliasing as you'll likely end up with too much vertical resolution. This is a problem with any downscaling from HD regardless of the camera in general.

Dennis Schmitz · February 19th, 2008, 06:35 AM

I'd always recommened editing in source format (1920x1080/1280x720 progressive/no fields, otherwise you will loose a lot of quality and the ability to deliver fullHD in the near future!

Let DVD architect do the converting.

And only use shutter off when shooting in lowlight situations. Shutter off produces a lot of motion blur and movement looks strange (at least here with a HV20 and EX1 @ 1/25 Shutter or shutter=off)

Dennis Schmitz · February 19th, 2008, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Grant

Make certain that in Vegas you specifiy a deinterlace method in the project properties (Blend fields is best if not much motion) and encode at Best.
You may get issues with line twitter / aliasing as you'll likely end up with too much vertical resolution. This is a problem with any downscaling from HD regardless of the camera in general.

1. Never, PLEASE NEVER use a deinterlacer on progressive material.

2. I've never seen this, just use the right resizer (spline36 seems to be the best - also used in apple compressor, as far as I know) and you're fine. :)

regards Dennis

Paul Kellett · February 19th, 2008, 12:33 PM

So is everyone saying deinterlace even if i filmed in interlaced ?
Is that not the same as rendering out as progressive ?
I'm getting confused with all this.

February 19th, 2008, 06:02 AM	#1
Greg Hawkes Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Basingstoke Posts: 83	Best format to shoot for PAL DVD Hi Trying to assess which format produces the best looking PAL DVD. I am using Vegas 8b and so after ingesting MSX clips via the clip brower I edit the a sequence then render directly to PAL wide screen DVD, import to DVD Architect 4 and then burn the DVD directly from the program. I am assessing the DVD both on wide screen CRTs and a LCD TV. So far have tried 3 of the HQ formats but not HQ 1080/25P or HQ 720/25P. (shutter off in all cases) Your views apreciated. All fairly static scenes (local pub, village, my garden etc) Have notices some picture shimmering whilst panning the camera. This stops when the camera stops. Encoded bit rate in DVD architect 6 average 7.5 max mb/sec.

February 19th, 2008, 12:33 PM	#5
Paul Kellett Trustee Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bristol UK Posts: 1,273	So is everyone saying deinterlace even if i filmed in interlaced ? Is that not the same as rendering out as progressive ? I'm getting confused with all this. __________________ Round 2 GH5,FZ2000

February 19th, 2008, 06:32 AM	#2
Bob Grant Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 1,570	Make certain that in Vegas you specifiy a deinterlace method in the project properties (Blend fields is best if not much motion) and encode at Best. You may get issues with line twitter / aliasing as you'll likely end up with too much vertical resolution. This is a problem with any downscaling from HD regardless of the camera in general.

February 19th, 2008, 06:35 AM	#3
Dennis Schmitz Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Viersen, Germany Posts: 120	I'd always recommened editing in source format (1920x1080/1280x720 progressive/no fields, otherwise you will loose a lot of quality and the ability to deliver fullHD in the near future! Let DVD architect do the converting. And only use shutter off when shooting in lowlight situations. Shutter off produces a lot of motion blur and movement looks strange (at least here with a HV20 and EX1 @ 1/25 Shutter or shutter=off)