well put!!!

The Circle of Confusion on this thread is about .00000001!

am confused!!!!!!!

Nate, why you selling your F350?

to phil bloom
 

hi,

can you explain us - if you know of course - something about that new letus if used with ex3 camera.

- is this adapter build WITH special (compesating) lens included ?
in another words - is this more or less typical letus but with additional lens on the back/video camera side which makes possible using camera without it's own lens on the camera body?

thanks,

filip kovcin

Looking forward to reading your review, and hoping that while at NAB you also get a chance to look at the rumoured RED 'Scarlet' hand-held camera - seems to be a LOT of excitement amongst friends in the industry over this (although one suspects it's some time away from being delivered) vs not a lot over the Sony.

hmm, that car was in the water like all day! aren't there any tow cables?

Depth of field explained

The above is only the tip of the iceburg.

here is my drop of water:

DOF is a function of sensor size and f setting. The greater the sensor size the greater the FOV. The smaller the f setting (larger aperture) the less the depth of field (and more expensive the lens).

Charles,

"Depth of field" actually refers to the depth in a scene in which objects appear in focus. More depth = more of the scene in focus.

Because we use expensive accessories on video cameras to simulate the properties of a 35mm film camera, many seem to think that by adding these accessories we are getting "greater depth of field."

In fact, using standard photographic terminology, a 35mm adapter gives LESS depth of field. Wider apertures also give less depth of field. Larger formats (film and chip size) give less depth of field at a given FOV and aperture.

I think that a misunderstanding of the terminology is what causes so much confusion on this topic.

Thanks Eric. I was about to take my own life. Good explanation.

FOV??? did I write that, Oops, way too long of a day...

Larger or more DOF with A SMALLER aperature, hince a pin hole camera needs no focusing and has an infinite DOF.

Larger aperature gives less DOF and an infinitly expensive lens gives a... I don't know what you call an infinitly small DOF, hmm

I will sleep on it...

Thanks Eric

it was parked on the boat ramp, the tide came up. swept it away, then the tide went down and it was towed out. The tide comes up very high in that part of the Thames and often floods around there. Locals know never to park your car even in some of the parking spaces!

Phil, at what time today do you think you'll post up the review on the EX3?

I would say midnight tomorrow night GMT

It's all ready...just need to click that publish button!!

Awesome Phil, cant wait to read about it... Im sure its a fantastic camera, but from the look of the pics of the EX3, its taken a heavy dose of ugly pills... IMO...

:) Cheers

Could somebody ( other than Philip who's sworn to secrecy) who saw the accidental sneak preview description of the EX-3 tell us what was in it. The article is gone for now.

I second Leonard! Whoever have read the article, is there anything way out different from the EX1? From the photos all I can see are the following changes: interchangeable lens / a monitor evf combination with an interesting mechanism / a revamped body with better placed buttons / some additional inputs and outputs / a very useful second accessory shoe placed in an interesting place.

I'm eager to know whether there is the facility to record SD like the 335 and 355's!

yes, the big secret is that it's the new lens-less organic sensor technology. interesting stuff. could there ever have been a more anticipated moment on here than midnight tomorrow?

Nope! It is 4.

You have D1, D2, D3 1/2" Digital, D5 1/2" Component, D6 and so on, but no D4.

From the little I've managed to dig up I'm guessing the secondary shoe is for a new 60 gig hard drive, redundancy or dumping? Both? Dunno.

- Ray

I read the article. Thought I was dreaming. Out of respect for Phil though I'll wait till he breaks the news. Nigels article was not an actual hands on review. Just a copy and paste of the facts which will be made public in hours anyway.

Phil should have an actual hands on review up tonight....which will be Monday afternoon my (Tokyo) time. Damn, why ain't the world flat.

I read the article. Thought I was dreaming. Out of respect for Phil though I'll wait till he breaks the news. I suck at Nigels article was not an actual hands on review. Just a copy and paste of the facts that will be made public in hours anyway.

Phil should have an actual hands on review up Sunday Night....which will be Monday afternoon my (Tokyo) time. Damn, why ain't the world flat.

I have the whole article including all the pictures, but am not going to post it because I do not want any trouble with Sony.

But this is what I still can find on another website.

The PHU-60K is an SxS Professional 60GB HardDisc Recorder.

It can be used either by recording directly from an SxS lead to the card slot or transfer from an SxS card when inserted in the other card slot.

Announcement of 32 GB SxS cards (2 hours @35Mb/s). Available in september.

For the rest you'll have to wait.

Excellent review Philip! I love your demonstration video where you are showing all the new features. (I was amazed that it is already online - I hope thats not by accident...)
I should have returned my EX1 when I still had the chance to do so, with all the backfocus issues. Sony will have lots of unhappy EX1 owners now...
The new EX3 looks like a killer camera! It has everything I miss on the EX1.

Thanks Philip for sharing this review.

regards,
Gerald

Lots of people are saying that but is it likely to be a replacement or a higher-end model? I know for me, the EX1 was as much as I could afford (and then some) so if the EX3 is going to cost much more than the EX1 it would probably have been out of my league anyway. I know the EX1 has had some manufacturing troubles, but the footage is incredible - I for one have no disappointment with it.

If it turns out the EX3 is better and only $500 more expensive then I'll be a bit frustrated though!

The EX3 will be something like $11,500, so yeah, It would have been out of my league too.
I have no regrets on buying the EX1 either. The EX3 looks like something to graduate into later on.

Which would be about $12,500 - $13,000 in Australia. Waaaay to much for me!

Only $500 more expensiver? Trust me, it will be more then that.

it will be more than that

The EX-1 was to my mind the first really viable pro camera within reach and was ready to take (for me anyway) A huge step and purchase a camera that cost almost the price of a small car. And through Phil Blooms posts discovered the amazing Letus adapter. Making it affordable now to create films. So borrowed over three years £7000

NOW. We have the EX-3 which is even more suited to this purpose than the EX-1. It should have been released the other way round giving people a choice. Many will now sell their EX-1s and buy the EX-3. Very good marketing for Sony whether accidental or not.

I think it would be really nice if Sony was to give some kind of trade in deal perhaps on a time limit for those who bought the EX-1 but would rather have purchased the EX-3. It wouldnt be many and would do wonders for customer relations in my opinion.

I suppose. I keep thinking to myself "What more could you want from a camera?" and Phil's site is perhaps the best evidence of that - his footage amazes me every time. But I guess I can see that many customers would wish they had the choice...

Nigels article online again
 

For those who missed it the first time around: New Sony Solid-State HD Products at NAB 2008 @ dvuser.co.uk.

I suppose the Sony embargo has been lifted ;)

So what I like about it so far (and not having seen/handled the real thing) in order of my preference:
- Done away with the viewfinder
- Better ergonomics (most controls on the left)
- Interchangable lens
- Frame rate control dial
- Flip switch on the LCD
- LCD controls are manual dials
- Timecode in/out
- All bnc's on the back, easy to manage
- Mic mount seems sturdier
- Cover over te audio levels

Also with what I presume to be the same sensor block and standard lens, it will be an exact match to the EX1. Just with some more options.

And how about that 2nd cold shoe at the back with the cable clasp on the handle that seems to be purpose build to take the PHU-60K SxS Professional 60GB HardDisc Recorder ;)

George/

P.S. Looking forward to Phil Blooms hands on review!

Does the Letus Ultimate bypass the lens on the EX3 then? I would get interested in that setup if it was true.

Also putting some fast lenses on there would help DOF, the half inch sensor isn't *that* much smaller than a 2/3rds.

f1.2 or T1.3 lenses could make a practical visual difference (T1.4 on 2/3rds same as T1.2 on half)

Very interesting though...

cheers
paul

Phil's review is Great!

Can you point us to Phils review of the EX3?
or is it not up yet?

Phil Bloom,

Not sure how long you will be in Vegas, but it would be a shame if you can't take a day to check out the Grand Canyon while here.....

I promise you will thank yourself if you take one of the heliicoptor rides out
to the canyon... might not be cheap, but it will be a memory you will never
forget :-)

If Phil is still in Vegas it's still really early there now, so lets give him a break.
I'm sure getting the review up is his highest priority on Sunday morning!

George/

Where is it?? Can´t find it, please help, I´m jonesing badly for more info...
Magnus (having the shakes, gear-related)

i am having a problem with the pictures in the review covering some of the text.

Windows XP and Internet Explorer 7.

Brendan,

Don't know what you are looking at, but Phil's review is not out yet... :)

Scott K.

The EX3 will be almost twice the price of the EX1.
It's really at a different price point.

EX3 is an EX1 with detachable lens, so unless you plan on buying more lenses, this will also up the price.

I'm real interested in the SxS hard drive recorder, although I'm blown away Sony only offered it with 60GB.... What the... Hard drives are cheap!

PHU-60K SxS Professional 60GB HardDisc Recorder.

Also, what I really want is an EX1 that's not riddled with various issues. I'm not understanding why the EX1 has so many issues, it not like they has never made video cameras. Having said that, let's hope the near future software upgrade addresses these issues and adds enhancements.