Climbing with the EX1

Mike Stevens · May 12th, 2008, 01:51 PM

Daniel, Thanks. What CINE did you use? I ask as without knowing that it is not possible to asses the effect of your 95% zebra. IE as cine4 is much "brighter" than cine1 to use zebra=x on both does not give the same histographic high.

With the bright skies of Yosemite and that great flat unsaturated look I bet you used cine1 with the cinema matrix (not Hi-Sat). Am I right?

Mike Stevens · May 12th, 2008, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Willey

I'm planning to shoot a big, multi-pitch rock climb in the California Sierras this summer and wondering if anyone out here has any suggestions.

Mark when will you be there? I'm planning a couple of shooting trips to Yosemite quite soon and as I am planning on getting a telephoto converter I thought I might offer to take some shots for you from the ground while you were on the wall. Always good to see a shot of the climber with the camera for reality. If interested you can email me at michael$$@$lenses35%.com% $ signs removed

Mike

Daniel Weber · May 12th, 2008, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Stevens

Daniel, Thanks. What CINE did you use? I ask as without knowing that it is not possible to asses the effect of your 95% zebra. IE as cine4 is much "brighter" than cine1 to use zebra=x on both does not give the same histographic high.

With the bright skies of Yosemite and that great flat unsaturated look I bet you used cine1 with the cinema matrix (not Hi-Sat). Am I right?

Mike,

My Color Matrix was on and set to standard. The Gamma was set on Standard 3. No Cine Gamma was used.

Daniel Weber

Peter Donaldson · May 12th, 2008, 04:50 PM

I am shooting a documentary in the himalayas later this year and would appreciate any advice on picture profiles and use of filters for high altitude and snow/ice conditions. At present I have a 486 and a polarizing filter and will take a ND and possibly a graduated density filter

Mike Stevens · May 12th, 2008, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Weber

Mike,

My Color Matrix was on and set to standard. The Gamma was set on Standard 3. No Cine Gamma was used.

Daniel Weber

This is very interesting. I must experiment with this. Thanks.

Daniel Weber · May 12th, 2008, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter Donaldson

I am shooting a documentary in the himalayas later this year and would appreciate any advice on picture profiles and use of filters for high altitude and snow/ice conditions. At present I have a 486 and a polarizing filter and will take a ND and possibly a graduated density filter

Peter that sounds like a good set to start with. I would think that would really need the extra ND shooting in snow and ice. I have found that the camera will run around f8, -3db, no shutter when shooting outdoors in bright sun. The extra ND along with a Polarizer will allow you to shoot around f4 or so. Will you be using a Mattebox? If so which one?

Daniel Weber

Mike Stevens · May 12th, 2008, 09:14 PM

I have the Cavision Matte Box (because it is cheap not good) with ND 1.2, ND graduated and polarizer for my bright California snow and sky scenes and this setup works well. If it is really bright keep to Cine1 but do maximise you dynamic range by exposing to the limit and dropping the bottom with the master black. Shadows can be opened or closed with the the black gamma.

Mike

Peter Donaldson · May 13th, 2008, 01:55 PM

Thanks for the tips, I have not yet made a decision on a matte box as weight is a major issue.
I'll experiment with the suggestions on snow during the Australian winter

Robert Young · May 13th, 2008, 06:20 PM

Peter
I have shot 2 docs in the Himalaya, highest @ near 22,000'. I think your filter selection is fine. At altitude there is more uv light, but I'm not sure if it is overall really "brighter" than a clear sunny day on the desert, or beach. The main challenge is the same as for any other bright hi contrast setting. Common example: shooting people on a glacier in full sunlight- do you underexpose the people, blow out the glacier, or try for something in between? The terrific dynamic range of the EX1, particularly with Cine 1 and black stretch should really help you in these situations. I would love to be back up there with this camera.
A graduated ND could also be worth bringing.
Good luck!!

May 12th, 2008, 04:50 PM	#19
Peter Donaldson Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Bowral Australia Posts: 26	high altitude use of EX1 I am shooting a documentary in the himalayas later this year and would appreciate any advice on picture profiles and use of filters for high altitude and snow/ice conditions. At present I have a 486 and a polarizing filter and will take a ND and possibly a graduated density filter

May 13th, 2008, 01:55 PM	#23
Peter Donaldson Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Bowral Australia Posts: 26	Himalayan shoot Thanks for the tips, I have not yet made a decision on a matte box as weight is a major issue. I'll experiment with the suggestions on snow during the Australian winter

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May 12th, 2008, 01:51 PM	#16
Mike Stevens Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 75	Daniel, Thanks. What CINE did you use? I ask as without knowing that it is not possible to asses the effect of your 95% zebra. IE as cine4 is much "brighter" than cine1 to use zebra=x on both does not give the same histographic high. With the bright skies of Yosemite and that great flat unsaturated look I bet you used cine1 with the cinema matrix (not Hi-Sat). Am I right?

May 12th, 2008, 09:14 PM	#22
Mike Stevens Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 75	I have the Cavision Matte Box (because it is cheap not good) with ND 1.2, ND graduated and polarizer for my bright California snow and sky scenes and this setup works well. If it is really bright keep to Cine1 but do maximise you dynamic range by exposing to the limit and dropping the bottom with the master black. Shadows can be opened or closed with the the black gamma. Mike

May 13th, 2008, 06:20 PM	#24
Robert Young Trustee Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Coronado Island Posts: 1,472	Peter I have shot 2 docs in the Himalaya, highest @ near 22,000'. I think your filter selection is fine. At altitude there is more uv light, but I'm not sure if it is overall really "brighter" than a clear sunny day on the desert, or beach. The main challenge is the same as for any other bright hi contrast setting. Common example: shooting people on a glacier in full sunlight- do you underexpose the people, blow out the glacier, or try for something in between? The terrific dynamic range of the EX1, particularly with Cine 1 and black stretch should really help you in these situations. I would love to be back up there with this camera. A graduated ND could also be worth bringing. Good luck!!