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Piotr Wozniacki July 16th, 2008 04:34 AM

This is indeed a nasty surprise, Paul! Have been trying all my MPEG players, and only Nero Showtime tries to play the mxf's back - but it has a tendency to hang ...

John Peterson July 16th, 2008 05:47 AM

This version still won't play the files in the preview window consecutively. You have to play them one at a time. I don't get it.

In terms of VLC media player playing the MXF files, just change the extension to either .m2v or even to .mpg and it will play them. If you put all of them in a single directory, you can open that directory in VLC media player and it will play them all consecutively.

John

Piotr Wozniacki July 16th, 2008 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by John Peterson (Post 908046)
In terms of VLC media player playing the MXF files, just change the extension to either .m2v or even to .mpg and it will play them.

John, which VLC version do you have? 0.8.5 will NOT play them; I'm upgrading now...

OK - the 0.8.6d DOES play mxf's even without renaming (still no sound though).

John Peterson July 16th, 2008 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Piotr Wozniacki (Post 908048)
John, which VLC version do you have? 0.8.5 will NOT play them; I'm upgrading now...

OK - the 0.8.6d DOES play mxf's even without renaming (still no sound though).

I am not sure why yours does not play sound. I didn't try creating the .mxf files with Clip Browser version 2 yet. They were created with version 1.1 , the extensions changed to .m2v, and they all played in VLC with sound.

John

Piotr Wozniacki July 16th, 2008 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by John Peterson (Post 908053)
I am not sure why yours does not play sound. I didn't try creating the .mxf files with Clip Browser version 2 yet. They were created with version 1.1 , the extensions changed to .m2v, and they all played in VLC with sound.

John

Even more strange, as m2v is a video stream...

But you know what? I changed the interface language from default (Polish in my case) to US-eng, and voila! - VLC does play mxf's with sound, both those from the previoues and the latest ClipBrowser versions.

Peter Kraft July 16th, 2008 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Piotr Wozniacki (Post 908058)
Even more strange, as m2v is a video stream...

Happened to me too, albeit in MPEGStreamClip. I feel however, that this happens only if a corresponding audio file with exactly the same name is in the same folder as the m2v file.
Strange anyway.

P.

Piotr Wozniacki July 16th, 2008 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter Kraft (Post 908077)
Happened to me too, albeit in MPEGStreamClip. I feel however, that this happens only if a corresponding audio file with exactly the same name is in the same folder as the m2v file.
Strange anyway.

P.

Well, it's not THAT strange really, if you think about it - what we have here is a complete, video plus audio multiplexed, MPEG-2 file in a different wrapper. Changing the name extension from mxf to mpg to m2v doesn't change anything for smart players like VLC...It still finds the audio stream, and plays it!

You're right though that when CREATING separate video and audio streams (like at NLE rendering), the m2v (video) stream file name (main part) must be the same for its audio (whichever format) counterpart, for many players to play the 2 simultaneously.

Paul Kellett July 16th, 2008 08:35 AM

Hopefully, sometime soon, vegas will be able to use the raw files so i won't bother rewrapping, i'll just copy the files to my hard-drive then check they're all there with clip browser, then delete the card with clip browser. If i need to rewrap to mxf for someone else,i'll just use vegas to check that the transfer was succesful.
So, i don't need anything except vegas and clip browser.

Paul

Ray Bell July 16th, 2008 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Piotr Wozniacki (Post 907980)
I must say the additional codex' prices are sick!

Also, has anyone managed to open the XDCAM 4:2:2 in Vegas? (Edius plays it just fine)

Where did you find the prices for the add-on's...

Thanks

Piotr Wozniacki July 16th, 2008 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray Bell (Post 908141)
Where did you find the prices for the add-on's...

Thanks

http://www.mainconcept.com/site/index.php?id=21901

The link is in the pdf manual you can download from the same page as the ClipBrowser software.

Tom Roper July 16th, 2008 11:23 AM

Don't we have most of the watermarked main concept codecs included in Vegas Pro 8.0b now? Would there be some advantage to converting these with Clip Browser 2.0 instead of Vegas?

Piotr Wozniacki July 16th, 2008 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Roper (Post 908195)
Don't we have most of the watermarked main concept codecs included in Vegas Pro 8.0b now? Would there be some advantage to converting these with Clip Browser 2.0 instead of Vegas?

Yeah, but...
Just compare the time needed!

Of course, we usually edit, and do at least one final render anyway, but sometimes you would need another format quickly - perhaps to hand over to the customer?

Tom Roper July 16th, 2008 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Piotr Wozniacki (Post 908196)
Yeah, but...
Just compare the time needed!

Of course, we usually edit, and do at least one final render anyway, but sometimes you would need another format quickly - perhaps to hand over to the customer?

So it's that much faster? It's not rendering? Why can't Vegas?

How does the XDCAM SQ transcode from HQ look? Never mind...I should just try some of these things and not bother everybody.

Piotr Wozniacki July 16th, 2008 12:00 PM

Tom,
I really don't know how they do it, but exporting to all those format added to ClipBrowser v2 is almost as quick as re-wrapping to mxf with v1. Really, just like re-wrapping - not rendering!

Oh, and SD down-conversion (no watermark - pure DV AVI) is very good, IMHO (will not swear just yet it's better than my DVD renders with Vegas, but it's certainly much quicker)...

Piotr Wozniacki July 16th, 2008 12:39 PM

BTW, ClipBrowser 2.0 is now also available for download from the http://sonybiz.net European site.


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