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Emmanuel Plakiotis · September 12th, 2008, 12:37 PM

About EX-3

According to Sony rep:
The HD SDI out of EX-1/3 is 420 and not 422. The internal proccessing is done 420 and therefore although the specs of HDSDI are 422 the information outputed is only 420.

The choice of CMOS over CCD had to do with consumpion and heat as well. The 1/2inch CCD sensor would have required much bigger body to work adequetly. Also the CMOS has better low light perfomance and dynamic range.

The rolling shutter issue will probably be eliminated with the next generation of CMOS.

On my comment that shooting 25p may result in less prominent rolling shutter phenomenon, since the frame rate is slower, he wasn't able to answer me.
Does any of the owners has made any test on the subject?

There will be a special promotion in Europe for the EX-3 combined with the HDD recording unit which will result in an E 300-400 discount from the combined price.

EX-3 wide angle lens 8X4 (was on show but behind glass) between E 2000-3000

EX30card reader deck E 4000

About Z5

The sensitivity of Z5 is 1.5 Lux similar to PD170 dv.

Remote control for Z5 (looks like playstation controller) E 1000. Doesn't work with FX1000

CF module for Z5 E 725

Z5 is considerably front heavy without the CF module in the back.

Z5 E 4500

New very small 1080i camera (helmet cam size) with 10X zoom with recording unit (via cable)
Most probably will record on flash memory and not HD
Out early 2009 (before NAB)

All prices include VAT

If you have any questions please let me know.

The above are list prices which mean that actual prices are 10-20% lower.

There will be an SXS module for the JVC camera. more info later.

Barry J. Anwender · September 12th, 2008, 12:55 PM

Well this conflicts with Sony's official in writing statement about the EX1/3 SDI output "live camera10-bit 4:2:2 progressive signal" as per this DVinfo posting:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/924899-post26.html

Jon Sands · September 12th, 2008, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emmanuel Plakiotis

According to Sony rep:
The HD SDI out of EX-1/3 is 420 and not 422. The internal proccessing is done 420 and therefore although the specs of HDSDI are 422 the information outputed is only 420.

If this is true I'm guessing it's going to cause an outrage.

Greg Boston · September 12th, 2008, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emmanuel Plakiotis

According to Sony rep:
The HD SDI out of EX-1/3 is 420 and not 422. The internal proccessing is done 420 and therefore although the specs of HDSDI are 422 the information outputed is only 420.

That would be true if you are playing back pre-recorded material from the cards. But if taken live, it is 4:2:2 output.

-gb-

Jason Bodnar · September 12th, 2008, 05:14 PM

Since I just finished recording live 422, I would say the Rep was not reading Sony's own material or you misunderstood.

Emmanuel Plakiotis · September 14th, 2008, 11:54 AM

The guy who told me about 420 was a Japanese technician with not the best English in the world. I will double check it tomorrow.

Emmanuel Plakiotis · September 15th, 2008, 12:04 PM

I went back and double triple asked and the answer was always the same:

The live feed from HDSDI out is formatted as 422 but the quality is 420. I will start a new thread because in this thread is buried.

September 12th, 2008, 12:37 PM	#1
Emmanuel Plakiotis Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 344	IBC newsworthy About EX-3 According to Sony rep: The HD SDI out of EX-1/3 is 420 and not 422. The internal proccessing is done 420 and therefore although the specs of HDSDI are 422 the information outputed is only 420. The choice of CMOS over CCD had to do with consumpion and heat as well. The 1/2inch CCD sensor would have required much bigger body to work adequetly. Also the CMOS has better low light perfomance and dynamic range. The rolling shutter issue will probably be eliminated with the next generation of CMOS. On my comment that shooting 25p may result in less prominent rolling shutter phenomenon, since the frame rate is slower, he wasn't able to answer me. Does any of the owners has made any test on the subject? There will be a special promotion in Europe for the EX-3 combined with the HDD recording unit which will result in an E 300-400 discount from the combined price. EX-3 wide angle lens 8X4 (was on show but behind glass) between E 2000-3000 EX30card reader deck E 4000 About Z5 The sensitivity of Z5 is 1.5 Lux similar to PD170 dv. Remote control for Z5 (looks like playstation controller) E 1000. Doesn't work with FX1000 CF module for Z5 E 725 Z5 is considerably front heavy without the CF module in the back. Z5 E 4500 New very small 1080i camera (helmet cam size) with 10X zoom with recording unit (via cable) Most probably will record on flash memory and not HD Out early 2009 (before NAB) All prices include VAT If you have any questions please let me know. The above are list prices which mean that actual prices are 10-20% lower. There will be an SXS module for the JVC camera. more info later.

September 12th, 2008, 12:55 PM	#2
Barry J. Anwender Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 382	Ex1/3 Sdi Well this conflicts with Sony's official in writing statement about the EX1/3 SDI output "live camera10-bit 4:2:2 progressive signal" as per this DVinfo posting: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/924899-post26.html

September 12th, 2008, 05:14 PM	#5
Jason Bodnar Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 376	Since I just finished recording live 422, I would say the Rep was not reading Sony's own material or you misunderstood.

September 14th, 2008, 11:54 AM	#6
Emmanuel Plakiotis Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 344	The guy who told me about 420 was a Japanese technician with not the best English in the world. I will double check it tomorrow.

September 15th, 2008, 12:04 PM	#7
Emmanuel Plakiotis Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 344	I went back and double triple asked and the answer was always the same: The live feed from HDSDI out is formatted as 422 but the quality is 420. I will start a new thread because in this thread is buried.