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Sorry Justin, I don't have any answers for you. I am sending mine back for a refund and living with the problem until something is worked out better for our cameras. I might get another 486 and use it when appropriate and correct its flaws to the best they can be corrected or avoid the focal range where it is a problem.
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OK, I'm new to this but what does this filter do [or not] that I'm supposed to be able to see between these two images? |
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Why are we getting different info on this filter? |
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ProVideo Coalition.com: Camera Log by Adam Wilt | Founder | Pro Cameras, HDV Camera, HD Camera, Sony, Panasonic, JVC, RED, Video Camera Reviews As you can see it makes the shirt black, but it also has the problem of causing a green vignetting problem. The True-cut does not have this desired effect on blacks as was hoped. |
Why do Adam's test images lack the green edges that the 486 is alleged to give?
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Are you referring to the filter or your camera? Maybe your camera's sensors may have a problem. Wouldn't Sony be liable for getting that repaired? |
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IR is not just a problem of CMOS cameras.
I shot Steve Job's keynote at MWSF last January for a publication for which I write. Shot with my HVX200. The images of Steve's brown turtleneck were great. This is with a CCD camera. I'm about to reach the point where I would simply just keep in IR750 on the lens at all times and ditch the traditional UV. |
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Sorry, I didn't mean to appear flippant. Production variances of the the camera and /or the filter could interact differently. The lenses won't be perfect replicas of each other even if they are within tolerances set by engineering and QC. Sensors from the centre of a wafer have very different characteristics than those from the edges. Perhaps I got one of the ones that exceeded IR sensitivity than most others. Filters are made within tolerances too and who knows what is an acceptable variance for them? I have a sample of one of each so I cannot say why my camera and filter exhibited the problem and the one tested elsewhere apparently didn't. I actually am considering getting Sony to look at my camera because the problems with blacks I am experiencing more often are not subtle. I suspect that perhaps my camera is flawed or perhaps more correctly is on one end of the range of IR sensitivity. It is definitely worth looking into and I will when I can at the earliest. Having said all that, I have the confirming discussion from the Schneider Optics engineer who agrees that it appears that both filter designs are not suited, or more likely more reliably suited, to the needs of the EX series cameras. If someone has images showing the True-cut fixing the kind of problem I have shown with my images on an EX3, or of a 486 on an EX3 that works and also doesn't cause green vignetting, I am sure everyone else would love to see them so we can narrow down causes and solutions. |
I've done a few preliminary tests of my own. Using my EX3, I see the problem only part of the time. Not all black on all fabrics come out reddish.
This being the case, is it a fabric issue, a dye issue, or is it a combination of the two? I remember back in the day when I was a commercial photographer, we had issues getting certain colored fabrics in our photographs rendered accurately. Eastman Kodak developed a film especially designed to illuminate the problem. It's been so long ago, I can't remember the name of the film stock. In any case, it was a welcomed addition to the arsenal. It's dejavu all over again. |
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I have been hoping that those who claim that they have the problem solved with the True-Cut filter would post images of their success. We really need to figure out the best solution for all EX owners. |
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