Image shakes/jitters HELP at DVinfo.net

Tyler Dreher · April 5th, 2012, 10:02 AM

I have two projects I am editing in premiere in which the camera looks like its slightly shaking up and down even though i was nowhere near the camera when it was recording. What do I do?

Doug Jensen · April 5th, 2012, 03:12 PM

It's hard to picture what you're talking about because you haven't posted a sample of the video, told us what camera you are using, or given any technical notes about the camera's video settings or the NLE's settings. However, if you were shooting interlaced, perhaps the field order is reversed on your timeline. That's one possibility that might cause some jitters.

Warren Kawamoto · April 5th, 2012, 04:49 PM

I've always been amazed at how well Mercalli 2 works. They make a plugin for Premier too.
proDAD Mercalli V2 - 3D image stabilizer, rolling shutter removal, zoom optimisation, pan shot optimisation

Jim Stamos · April 5th, 2012, 07:22 PM

i second mercali 2. its a great program for getting rid of shaky footage.

Doug Jensen · April 6th, 2012, 05:59 AM

How do you know the camera was even shaking? That has not been established from his description of the problem. For all we know, the footage is rock solid and the jitters is caused by problems in post.
It's best to diagnose the problem properly before jumping to a cure.

Tom Hardwick · April 6th, 2012, 06:03 AM

Sounds to me like the OIS could have gone haywire. I've heard of this happening on a few Sony camcorders, and my own Z1 was so affected while I was filming near an electric railway a few years ago. But as regards 'what can I do?', I'd say I'm a Mercalli believer too.

Alister Chapman · April 6th, 2012, 06:27 AM

Or it could be Premiere alternating between fields if it's interlaced footage, that can cause the image to jitter up and down.

Doug Jensen · April 6th, 2012, 07:35 AM

Alister, good to know you agree. That was one of my suggestions in post #2.
But all we can do is guess without more info. I'm done speculating.

Rick L. Allen · April 6th, 2012, 08:42 AM

I'd go back to your setup for shooting first. Were you outside - was it windy? Was your tripod set up on on a floor that transmitted vibrations? Did you weight your tripod to dampen vibrations? Then post a clip so we can see the problem.

Vincent Oliver · April 8th, 2012, 03:37 AM

I am surprised so many have taken the time to respond to this problem, especially as the poster has not uploaded a sample. It seems that quite a few posts have been made on these forums whereby we are being told about a problem, but no sample s are posted. Maybe we should just ignore any posts that do not give the full picture.

On a more positive note, Happy Easter to all.

Tyler Dreher · April 10th, 2012, 07:30 PM

I'm sorry I haven't gotten back.

-The video was captured in an auditorium from an EX3 on a tripod. I was close by but I never touched the camera while it was recording.

-Sometimes the footage seems jumpy if it isn't rendered but that doesn't seem to be the case here.

Tyler Dreher · April 10th, 2012, 07:59 PM

It might actually just be the camera shaking. I've tried to get a sample up but i don't have the time to mess with it right now. Thanks everyone for your help. I'm going to get that plugin eventually.

April 5th, 2012, 10:02 AM	#1
Tyler Dreher New Boot Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 13	Image shakes/jitters HELP I have two projects I am editing in premiere in which the camera looks like its slightly shaking up and down even though i was nowhere near the camera when it was recording. What do I do?

April 5th, 2012, 04:49 PM	#3
Warren Kawamoto Trustee Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 1,435	Re: Image shakes/jitters HELP I've always been amazed at how well Mercalli 2 works. They make a plugin for Premier too. proDAD Mercalli V2 - 3D image stabilizer, rolling shutter removal, zoom optimisation, pan shot optimisation

April 5th, 2012, 07:22 PM	#4
Jim Stamos Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 563	Re: Image shakes/jitters HELP i second mercali 2. its a great program for getting rid of shaky footage.

April 6th, 2012, 05:59 AM	#5
Doug Jensen Vortex Media Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,416	Re: Image shakes/jitters HELP How do you know the camera was even shaking? That has not been established from his description of the problem. For all we know, the footage is rock solid and the jitters is caused by problems in post. It's best to diagnose the problem properly before jumping to a cure. __________________ Vortex Media http://www.vortexmedia.com/ Sony FS7, F55, and XDCAM training videos, field guides, and other production tools

April 6th, 2012, 06:03 AM	#6
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	Re: Image shakes/jitters HELP Sounds to me like the OIS could have gone haywire. I've heard of this happening on a few Sony camcorders, and my own Z1 was so affected while I was filming near an electric railway a few years ago. But as regards 'what can I do?', I'd say I'm a Mercalli believer too.

April 5th, 2012, 03:12 PM	#2
Doug Jensen Vortex Media Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,416	Re: Image shakes/jitters HELP It's hard to picture what you're talking about because you haven't posted a sample of the video, told us what camera you are using, or given any technical notes about the camera's video settings or the NLE's settings. However, if you were shooting interlaced, perhaps the field order is reversed on your timeline. That's one possibility that might cause some jitters. __________________ Vortex Media http://www.vortexmedia.com/ Sony FS7, F55, and XDCAM training videos, field guides, and other production tools

April 6th, 2012, 06:27 AM	#7
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	Re: Image shakes/jitters HELP Or it could be Premiere alternating between fields if it's interlaced footage, that can cause the image to jitter up and down. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

April 6th, 2012, 07:35 AM	#8
Doug Jensen Vortex Media Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,416	Re: Image shakes/jitters HELP Alister, good to know you agree. That was one of my suggestions in post #2. But all we can do is guess without more info. I'm done speculating. __________________ Vortex Media http://www.vortexmedia.com/ Sony FS7, F55, and XDCAM training videos, field guides, and other production tools

April 6th, 2012, 08:42 AM	#9
Rick L. Allen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 535	Re: Image shakes/jitters HELP I'd go back to your setup for shooting first. Were you outside - was it windy? Was your tripod set up on on a floor that transmitted vibrations? Did you weight your tripod to dampen vibrations? Then post a clip so we can see the problem. __________________ "The good thing about science is that it's true whether you believe it or not." Neil deGrasse Tyson https://www.nautilusproductions.com/

April 8th, 2012, 03:37 AM	#10
Vincent Oliver Trustee Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chislehurst, London Posts: 1,724	Re: Image shakes/jitters HELP I am surprised so many have taken the time to respond to this problem, especially as the poster has not uploaded a sample. It seems that quite a few posts have been made on these forums whereby we are being told about a problem, but no sample s are posted. Maybe we should just ignore any posts that do not give the full picture. On a more positive note, Happy Easter to all. __________________ Eyes are a deaf man’s ears. Ears are a blind man’s eyes

April 10th, 2012, 07:30 PM	#11
Tyler Dreher New Boot Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 13	Re: Image shakes/jitters HELP I'm sorry I haven't gotten back. -The video was captured in an auditorium from an EX3 on a tripod. I was close by but I never touched the camera while it was recording. -Sometimes the footage seems jumpy if it isn't rendered but that doesn't seem to be the case here.

April 10th, 2012, 07:59 PM	#12
Tyler Dreher New Boot Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 13	Re: Image shakes/jitters HELP It might actually just be the camera shaking. I've tried to get a sample up but i don't have the time to mess with it right now. Thanks everyone for your help. I'm going to get that plugin eventually.