New promo video XDCAM EX and XDCAM HD422

Jamie Allan · August 22nd, 2007, 03:02 AM

Is there an echo in here? ;)

Alex Leith · August 22nd, 2007, 03:09 AM

Ha! Ha! I was showing my support for your theory...

:o)

Jamie Allan · August 22nd, 2007, 07:27 AM

Aint no theory, got told that by someone at Sony. Should be seeing the holy grail itself later today, although this post may get deleted after the non-disclosure signing...

Alex Leith · August 22nd, 2007, 07:34 AM

You're seeing it...? Drool!

Just sign the NDA "M. Mouse" and then you can tell us all ;-D

Greg Boston · August 22nd, 2007, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie Allan

C'mon people, its a (crappy) vaporware mock up, don't belive everything you see on the net...

Easy there Jamie. I don't know why they need to show a mock-up when the real XDCAM EX has already been unveiled. I'm inclined to believe that it is a mock-up as you say, so why didn't the website obtain pictures of the real thing?

Besides, with everything moving towards flash based acquisition, it's not out of the realm that a lower cost camera with less professional orientation such as the one pictured might get produced.

And no, I don't believe everything I see on the net.

-gb-

Jamie Allan · August 22nd, 2007, 07:48 AM

I'm pretty sure that picture has been knocking about for ages now, your comment on the movement of the market is completely valid - but would a lower-cost camera still be branded with cinealta? I'll find out for sure later :)

Chris Hurd · August 22nd, 2007, 07:52 AM

XDCAM HD has always carried the CineAlta badge (albeit silver in color, as the gold is reserved for the higher-end, more expensive gear). So it logically follows that since XDCAM HD is branded CineAlta, so too is XDCAM EX.

Jamie Allan · August 22nd, 2007, 07:55 AM

Yeah, of course, but we were talking about the possibility of that mock-up being a completely different, almost pro-sumer model that would be cheaper than the EX...

Greg Boston · August 22nd, 2007, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie Allan

but would a lower-cost camera still be branded with cinealta? I'll find out for sure later :)

It has already happened in the minds of those who used the original high-end Cinealta. They weren't happy to see that badge on the side of the current XDCAM HD units.

I would agree that it's a mock-up, I just hadn't seen that picture before and it took me by surprise. You're going to like the 'holy grail' as you put it. ;-)

-gb-

Bob Willis · August 22nd, 2007, 08:04 AM

These are mock up pictures that came out around the time of NAB. Old stuff. I guess no one really paid that much attention then with all the excitement? Just more speculation until the camera actually comes available.

If the camera has cmos, it would not be as interesting to me as a second camera, since it would be harder to match with the F350. What I want to know is when that new disc reader/writer will be available?

I believe the PDW-U1.

Chris Hurd · August 22nd, 2007, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie Allan

we were talking about the possibility of that mock-up being a completely different, almost pro-sumer model that would be cheaper than the EX...

Sorry, in my opinion that's not a likely possibility at all. Like Greg, I had not seen this image before but I'll put credence into Alex Leith's assertion that this particular image is a concept mock-up from an earlier stage of XDCAM EX development.

Jamie Allan · August 22nd, 2007, 08:13 AM

#@?!

I said it was it wasnt a possibility and I said it was an old mock up...all this mis-quoting is making me look like a really bad Sony product specialist :(

Greg Boston · August 22nd, 2007, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie Allan

making me look like a really bad Sony product specialist :(

Out of curiosity Jamie, as a Sony product specialist, are you a direct employee, an independent contractor, etc?

I only ask because I don't know how Sony UK is set up. I myself belong to a group in the US called XDCAM ICE team. Independent Certified Experts. Roughly ten of us from around the US that assist with product training and demos from an actual user perspective.

-gb-

Chris Hurd · August 22nd, 2007, 08:29 AM

Easy does it, Jamie... we're all friends here. I did not misquote you. I quoted you directly from your earlier post in this thread. If it seems lifted out of context, then I apologize. You had said "we were talking about..." but in actuality the only person talking about it was Vaughn Wood in this post. You then asked "would a lower-cost camera still be branded with cinealta," to which I replied that it's been done before. For everyone: let's please keep our emotions in check and our attitudes positive at all times -- thanks in advance,

Bob Willis · August 22nd, 2007, 08:49 AM

Here you go Chris.

http://www.xdcamuser.co.uk/articles.php

Near the bottom of the page under concept drawing. I remember seeing this come out around NAB.

August 22nd, 2007, 03:09 AM	#47
Alex Leith Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Northampton, England Posts: 500	Ha! Ha! I was showing my support for your theory... :o) __________________ Alex

August 22nd, 2007, 07:34 AM	#49
Alex Leith Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Northampton, England Posts: 500	You're seeing it...? Drool! Just sign the NDA "M. Mouse" and then you can tell us all ;-D __________________ Alex

August 22nd, 2007, 07:52 AM	#52
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	XDCAM HD has always carried the CineAlta badge (albeit silver in color, as the gold is reserved for the higher-end, more expensive gear). So it logically follows that since XDCAM HD is branded CineAlta, so too is XDCAM EX. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

August 22nd, 2007, 08:29 AM	#59
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Easy does it, Jamie... we're all friends here. I did not misquote you. I quoted you directly from your earlier post in this thread. If it seems lifted out of context, then I apologize. You had said "we were talking about..." but in actuality the only person talking about it was Vaughn Wood in this post. You then asked "would a lower-cost camera still be branded with cinealta," to which I replied that it's been done before. For everyone: let's please keep our emotions in check and our attitudes positive at all times -- thanks in advance, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

August 22nd, 2007, 03:02 AM	#46
Jamie Allan Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Notts, UK Posts: 101	Is there an echo in here? ;)

August 22nd, 2007, 07:27 AM	#48
Jamie Allan Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Notts, UK Posts: 101	Aint no theory, got told that by someone at Sony. Should be seeing the holy grail itself later today, although this post may get deleted after the non-disclosure signing...

August 22nd, 2007, 07:48 AM	#51
Jamie Allan Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Notts, UK Posts: 101	I'm pretty sure that picture has been knocking about for ages now, your comment on the movement of the market is completely valid - but would a lower-cost camera still be branded with cinealta? I'll find out for sure later :)

August 22nd, 2007, 07:55 AM	#53
Jamie Allan Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Notts, UK Posts: 101	Yeah, of course, but we were talking about the possibility of that mock-up being a completely different, almost pro-sumer model that would be cheaper than the EX...

August 22nd, 2007, 08:04 AM	#55
Bob Willis Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico Posts: 292	These are mock up pictures that came out around the time of NAB. Old stuff. I guess no one really paid that much attention then with all the excitement? Just more speculation until the camera actually comes available. If the camera has cmos, it would not be as interesting to me as a second camera, since it would be harder to match with the F350. What I want to know is when that new disc reader/writer will be available? I believe the PDW-U1.

August 22nd, 2007, 08:13 AM	#57
Jamie Allan Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Notts, UK Posts: 101	#@?! I said it was it wasnt a possibility and I said it was an old mock up...all this mis-quoting is making me look like a really bad Sony product specialist :(

August 22nd, 2007, 08:49 AM	#60
Bob Willis Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico Posts: 292	Here you go Chris. http://www.xdcamuser.co.uk/articles.php Near the bottom of the page under concept drawing. I remember seeing this come out around NAB.