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Luc De Wandel December 2nd, 2011 03:50 AM

Re: F3 4:4:4 recording solution? Forget the gemini!
 
Alister, entered my e-mail in your link as demanded, but no download...

Peter Corbett December 2nd, 2011 05:02 AM

Re: F3 4:4:4 recording solution? Forget the gemini!
 
Same here...it's broke.

Alister Chapman December 2nd, 2011 09:08 AM

Re: F3 4:4:4 recording solution? Forget the gemini!
 
if you click on the link again, after entering you email, you should get the download link.

Barry Nolan December 2nd, 2011 05:29 PM

Re: F3 4:4:4 recording solution? Forget the gemini!
 
Alister,

I've tried your link 5 or 6 times in the past 5 hrs. with no luck.

Barry

Peter Corbett December 2nd, 2011 11:20 PM

Re: F3 4:4:4 recording solution? Forget the gemini!
 
Ditto. Just tried it again and nothing happens.

Alister Chapman December 3rd, 2011 04:02 AM

Re: F3 4:4:4 recording solution? Forget the gemini!
 
I've changed the login method. Registered users should get the download link automatically.

Barry Nolan December 3rd, 2011 10:31 AM

Re: F3 4:4:4 recording solution? Forget the gemini!
 
Alister,

OK now. Thank you
Barry

Peter G. Johnson December 3rd, 2011 08:56 PM

Re: F3 4:4:4 recording solution? Forget the gemini!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Keaton (Post 1699850)
I thought the import tax for Australia was 10%, but I could be wrong.

Import tax to Australia is 10% and then you add on Customs Duty. What a complete rort! I've been stung a number of times with this, which is why you have to be discerning when importing to Australia.

A$
Customs value EXAMPLE ($1200) (Cval) 1200.00
Customs duty (Duty) @ 5% of Cval 60.00 (Payable)
International transport and insurance or postage (T&I) 150.00
Value of the Taxable Importation (VoTI) (Cval+Duty+T&I) 1410.00
Goods and Services Tax (GST) @ 10% of the VoTI 141.00 (Payable)
Total payable Duty + GST 201.00

When buying over the internet

Alister Chapman December 4th, 2011 04:11 AM

Re: F3 4:4:4 recording solution? Forget the gemini!
 
There is a similar tax situation when importing into most countries.

Across Europe for example a product imported from outside Europe will be subject to VAT. In the UK VAT is 17.5% (As corrected by Mike below it's 20%). Then there is also import duty which will depend on the type of product, but between 8% and 15% is common.

The exporter of a product when selling to another country does not generally have to add any taxes to the product. But when selling in ones own country there will be sales taxes and/or VAT to be added, which is often why overseas goods often appear on the face of it to be cheaper.

Mike Marriage December 4th, 2011 04:38 AM

Re: F3 4:4:4 recording solution? Forget the gemini!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alister Chapman (Post 1701318)
In the UK VAT is 17.5%.

20% since 4th January 2011!

Alister Chapman December 4th, 2011 03:35 PM

Re: F3 4:4:4 recording solution? Forget the gemini!
 
Doh! I do know that but my brain refuses to accept 20% VAT, especially on a weekend when I'm jet lagged :-)

Ron Aerts December 11th, 2011 07:46 AM

Re: F3 4:4:4 recording solution? Forget the gemini!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cees van Kempen (Post 1700300)
Is the difference related to ProRess vs. XDCam or to 10bit 220mbps vs 8bit 35mbps? Or in other words, will capturing with nanoflash at XD Cam HD422 @ 220mbps be comparable with the proress example or with the SxS card example? I don't have a F3 (yet), but have a nano and consider the F3.

Cees, you're welcome to use my F3/Zeiss CP2 for a test

Cees van Kempen December 17th, 2011 03:02 PM

Re: F3 4:4:4 recording solution? Forget the gemini!
 
Thanks Ron, I might come back to this at a later stage.

Cees

Doug Jensen December 17th, 2011 10:59 PM

Re: F3 4:4:4 recording solution? Forget the gemini!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cees van Kempen (Post 1700300)
Is the difference related to ProRess vs. XDCam or to 10bit 220mbps vs 8bit 35mbps? Or in other words, will capturing with nanoflash at XD Cam HD422 @ 220mbps be comparable with the proress example or with the SxS card example? I don't have a F3 (yet), but have a nano and consider the F3.

I have 50GB of test footage available if you want to seriously compare the differences between various codecs. PMW-F3 S-LOG & External Recorders Test Drive

Alister Chapman December 18th, 2011 10:23 AM

Re: F3 4:4:4 recording solution? Forget the gemini!
 
We shot a Duran Duran concert with 12x PMW-F3's with NanoFlashes recording at 80Mb/s on Friday. We chose NanoFlashes as they are highly reliable and the amount of media generated by 12 cameras shooting for over 2 hours each is very manageable. Lot's to consider when choosing a recorder, not just image quality. As there are no plans for a heavy grade (I created a PP specifically for the shoot by experimenting at a previous DD gig) it was felt that 8 bit would be plenty. Shooting with ProRes HQ would have generated around 3.5TB of data compared to the 900GB that was shot with the Nano's. Not a job for a Gemini... that would have been 26TB from the 12 cameras! Don't forget that we are also creating a backup of everything so all the numbers given can be doubled when you include that, plus a further 300GB from the mini-cams and crowd cameras.


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