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Henry Epstein July 21st, 2012 03:02 PM

The Next Big Thing Is Coming... 7.26.2012
 
New announcement from Sony at the XDCAM Microsite Page...

Some guess about this? Alister?

Sony | Micro Site XDCAM

Simon Wood July 21st, 2012 03:46 PM

Re: The Next Big Thing Is Coming... 7.26.2012
 
http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/digital-...26th-july.html

Leonard Levy July 26th, 2012 09:35 PM

Re: The Next Big Thing Is Coming... 7.26.2012
 
So... Today was the 26th - any big announcement? Have I misssed something?

Thierry Humeau July 26th, 2012 10:14 PM

Re: The Next Big Thing Is Coming... 7.26.2012
 
No biggie. The PMW-200, basically the EX1R with 422 50Mbps recording capability.

Alister Chapman July 27th, 2012 07:48 AM

Re: The Next Big Thing Is Coming... 7.26.2012
 
Yep, like an EX1R but with 422 recording, lower noise, wifi remote control with iPad, new LCD with incredible viewing angle, new lens servo, 4 channels of audio, Hypergammas, Genlock, timecode in and out, quick start mode, XQD card support, so no, nothing much really.

See http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/digital-...ml#post1745671

Chuck Fishbein July 27th, 2012 08:58 AM

Re: The Next Big Thing Is Coming... 7.26.2012
 
Well put, Alister.

Vincent Oliver July 27th, 2012 10:22 AM

Re: The Next Big Thing Is Coming... 7.26.2012
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alister Chapman (Post 1745693)
Yep,, so no, nothing much really.

See http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/digital-...ml#post1745671

I expect the price will also be something new :-)

Alister Chapman July 27th, 2012 11:33 AM

Re: The Next Big Thing Is Coming... 7.26.2012
 
Looks like it will be about £900 more than an EX1R at launch.

Buba Kastorski July 27th, 2012 12:35 PM

Re: The Next Big Thing Is Coming... 7.26.2012
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alister Chapman (Post 1745693)
so no, nothing much really.

i agree, image wise you probably won't tell where is what

Shaun Roemich July 27th, 2012 12:43 PM

Re: The Next Big Thing Is Coming... 7.26.2012
 
Okay... I'm impressed. My question: it records 4 channels of audio. 2 XLRs. The other sources are....???

Doug Jensen July 27th, 2012 01:30 PM

Re: The Next Big Thing Is Coming... 7.26.2012
 
The built-in stereo microphone, or you can send the XLR inputs to any combination of channels 1, 2, 3, & 4.

I've been shooting with four channels on my F800 for a couple of years and it is great to always have the camera mic being recorded no matter what I'm feeding to the XLRs. Or, I can use 3 & 4 (which always have auto-gain control) as insurance against over driving 1 & 2 when I feed them the same source.

Shaun Roemich July 27th, 2012 05:01 PM

Re: The Next Big Thing Is Coming... 7.26.2012
 
Thanks Doug... when I was shooting news with BetaSX cameras, the channels 3&4 (on camera mic and wireless drop in, both on auto) saved us on a handful of occasions...

Alister Chapman July 28th, 2012 04:26 AM

Re: The Next Big Thing Is Coming... 7.26.2012
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Buba Kastorski (Post 1745721)
i agree, image wise you probably won't tell where is what

No, it's definitely a better image than the EX1R, not just less noise but better skin tone reproduction with less of the muddy look that the EX's can sometimes exhibit on mid tones. The improved image processing makes quite a difference, add 4:2:2 into the equation and you also get better colour fidelity. Several small incremental improvements than when combined together create a more pleasing image.

Vincent Oliver July 28th, 2012 04:39 AM

Re: The Next Big Thing Is Coming... 7.26.2012
 
Alister, did you notice any improvement on the IR issue?

Les Wilson July 28th, 2012 06:16 AM

Re: The Next Big Thing Is Coming... 7.26.2012
 
Wasn't the IR issue fixed in the EX1R?

Chris Medico July 28th, 2012 06:19 AM

Re: The Next Big Thing Is Coming... 7.26.2012
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Les Wilson (Post 1745824)
Wasn't the IR issue fixed in the EX1R?

I do believe it was. I don't see the issue on my Ex1r.

Alister Chapman July 28th, 2012 03:32 PM

Re: The Next Big Thing Is Coming... 7.26.2012
 
I didn't check to be honest. Tight deadline and too many other things to look at. It's not going to be worse than an EX1R.

Leonard Levy July 28th, 2012 03:36 PM

Re: The Next Big Thing Is Coming... 7.26.2012
 
I do think it is a significant improvement.

Wouldn't it be lovely if they could provide the 4:2:2 50Mbs as an upgrade to the F3.

IR issue was improved in the F3 as well, not eliminated but greatly improved.

Ned Soltz July 28th, 2012 08:33 PM

Re: The Next Big Thing Is Coming... 7.26.2012
 
4:2:2 50 Mbps isn't coming to the F3. It is a chipset issue rather than firmware.

Leonard Levy July 28th, 2012 09:59 PM

Re: The Next Big Thing Is Coming... 7.26.2012
 
No surprise that is not coming, but just for geek grins could you elaborate on the chipset issue?

Alister Chapman July 29th, 2012 02:14 AM

Re: The Next Big Thing Is Coming... 7.26.2012
 
The F3 really wants a 10 bit codec like ProRes.

Ron Aerts July 30th, 2012 12:16 AM

Re: The Next Big Thing Is Coming... 7.26.2012
 
Remote by wifi...
what functions has wifi.
Can you change parameters by wifi on the fly?

Alister Chapman July 30th, 2012 01:37 PM

Re: The Next Big Thing Is Coming... 7.26.2012
 
I don't know what the full feature set for the WiFi options will be. You will need to buy a CKK-WA01 wifi adapter. Then you will be able to use an iOS device or an Android device to control rec start/stop, focus and zoom as well as further function. I would guess that you will also be able to control gain and shutter speed. In addition you should be able to use XM-Pilot to log material and add metadata as you shoot.


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