Camera Eyewear for Steadicam and Jib Operators at DVinfo.net

James Emory · October 13th, 2005, 01:56 AM

Eyewear Info
http://parts.rctoys.com/rc-toys-hobbies/Items/329761

http://parts.rctoys.com/rc-toys-hobbies/Items/329763

Alexandre Lucena · October 13th, 2005, 08:42 AM

When someone is operating a steadicam he or she is looking at the monitor
on the bottom of the sled. The reason for that is because you also want
to look at the path you are crossing. But if you buy one and use it with a
body stabilizer let me know if it works.

James Emory · October 13th, 2005, 11:41 AM

Both eyes can use periferral vision to watch the terrain but this type of device has just one monitor so the other eye is able to see the surroundings clearly. If there were two monitors, I bet it would be hard to concentrate where you are walking.

Charles Papert · October 13th, 2005, 12:15 PM

Eyeglass monitors have been attempted with Steadicam for many years, through various iterations. The older ones blocked too much of one's regular vision to be useful; these late model ones have more of a chance. Alexandre, the idea is that if you want to look down the image will appear exactly where the hard-mounted monitor would have been, but if you need to glance behind you to see where you are walking, you still get to keep an eye on framing.

I've never tried these myself, but I know that others have found them interesting but ultimately a bit confusing. Probably someone who hasn't spent years getting used to working with a traditional setup would have an easier time making the transition.

Probably worth noting from a historical perception that the Steadicam prototype circa 1973 incorporated a fiber optic viewfinder essentially glued onto the operator's eye (this being just pre-video assist)--this meant that each eye had an entirely different field of view and it was hard to differentiate which one was the camera etc., plus a bit nauseating!

Pix of same:

http://www.steadicamforum.com/forums...?showtopic=196

James Emory · October 13th, 2005, 01:09 PM

I have seen those pictures before but I do like seeing the early beginnings of products that turn out to be revolutionary in an industry no matter what it is. It really gives the latest generation of the successful product alot of respect. That headset he is wearing looks like what an ENT (ear, nose & throat) doctor wears! As if we don't get enough odd stares with the body rig alone these days.

I remember seeing moving video of Garrett wearing that same thing but he was running with it down a golf course fairway. It was in the history montage of the promo video for the JR when it was first released.

Alexandre Lucena · October 14th, 2005, 05:16 AM

I am figuring out a way to fit the antenna and transmiter nice and neat on the sled.
BTW, do you know how much they cost?

P.S It might be the case to take some pils on the first day.

Tim Clark · October 14th, 2005, 05:27 PM

That's very similar to the product that we sell at MICRODOLLY:

http://www.microdolly.com/videoglasses.html

The glasses are great for framing a shot with the Jib or a remote Pan/Tilt head.

I haven't tried them with any steadicam devices yet.

Tim

Dan Selakovich · October 15th, 2005, 08:53 AM

I tried the kind that completely block your vision with my stabilizer and almost killed myself. I don't think I'd use them for jib work either. Too easy to bonk somebody in the head. But these seem quite different; am I correct in assuming you can also see the "real world" as well as the image?

Dan
www.DVcameraRigs.com

October 13th, 2005, 01:56 AM	#1
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	Camera Eyewear for Steadicam and Jib Operators Eyewear Info http://parts.rctoys.com/rc-toys-hobbies/Items/329761 http://parts.rctoys.com/rc-toys-hobbies/Items/329763

October 13th, 2005, 08:42 AM	#2
Alexandre Lucena Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 56	uneven floor When someone is operating a steadicam he or she is looking at the monitor on the bottom of the sled. The reason for that is because you also want to look at the path you are crossing. But if you buy one and use it with a body stabilizer let me know if it works.

October 13th, 2005, 12:15 PM	#4
Charles Papert Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,810	Eyeglass monitors have been attempted with Steadicam for many years, through various iterations. The older ones blocked too much of one's regular vision to be useful; these late model ones have more of a chance. Alexandre, the idea is that if you want to look down the image will appear exactly where the hard-mounted monitor would have been, but if you need to glance behind you to see where you are walking, you still get to keep an eye on framing. I've never tried these myself, but I know that others have found them interesting but ultimately a bit confusing. Probably someone who hasn't spent years getting used to working with a traditional setup would have an easier time making the transition. Probably worth noting from a historical perception that the Steadicam prototype circa 1973 incorporated a fiber optic viewfinder essentially glued onto the operator's eye (this being just pre-video assist)--this meant that each eye had an entirely different field of view and it was hard to differentiate which one was the camera etc., plus a bit nauseating! Pix of same: http://www.steadicamforum.com/forums...?showtopic=196 __________________ Charles Papert www.charlespapert.com

October 14th, 2005, 05:16 AM	#6
Alexandre Lucena Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 56	Interesting I am figuring out a way to fit the antenna and transmiter nice and neat on the sled. BTW, do you know how much they cost? P.S It might be the case to take some pils on the first day.

October 14th, 2005, 05:27 PM	#7
Tim Clark MicroDolly Hollywood Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Burbank, CA Posts: 22	Eyeglasses Kit That's very similar to the product that we sell at MICRODOLLY: http://www.microdolly.com/videoglasses.html The glasses are great for framing a shot with the Jib or a remote Pan/Tilt head. I haven't tried them with any steadicam devices yet. Tim __________________ www.microdolly.com Jibs, Dollies, Camera Mounts

October 13th, 2005, 11:41 AM	#3
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	Both eyes can use periferral vision to watch the terrain but this type of device has just one monitor so the other eye is able to see the surroundings clearly. If there were two monitors, I bet it would be hard to concentrate where you are walking.

October 13th, 2005, 01:09 PM	#5
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	I have seen those pictures before but I do like seeing the early beginnings of products that turn out to be revolutionary in an industry no matter what it is. It really gives the latest generation of the successful product alot of respect. That headset he is wearing looks like what an ENT (ear, nose & throat) doctor wears! As if we don't get enough odd stares with the body rig alone these days. I remember seeing moving video of Garrett wearing that same thing but he was running with it down a golf course fairway. It was in the history montage of the promo video for the JR when it was first released.

October 15th, 2005, 08:53 AM	#8
Dan Selakovich Major Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 220	I tried the kind that completely block your vision with my stabilizer and almost killed myself. I don't think I'd use them for jib work either. Too easy to bonk somebody in the head. But these seem quite different; am I correct in assuming you can also see the "real world" as well as the image? Dan www.DVcameraRigs.com