Re: Balancing a glidecam !?
 

For the record, I have received my forearm brace and it does help. Although my arm still burns after about 20-30 seconds. But hey! It's better than 3 seconds (I'm getting old and I must have some carpal tunnel issues or something)!!

I just ordered indiecam's DVD for $35 +tax & shipping on how to use these things: http://indicam.dyndns.tv/indicam2/in...d=44&Itemid=53

Hope it will help me not to learn the wrong way to use my Glidecam. I do love how the footage looks. The vest is really unrealistic for weddings. Takes too long to get on for one, right?

Now, for a music video, that's another story. So many options to take with videography!

And can I just say (again) how I really appreciate all the experienced visitors who give us their insight on this forum. Thank you guys. You all rock!

Re: Balancing a glidecam !?
 

Hi Lisa

I do all my photoshoots on Stedicam with a vest. It's quite practical at various photoshoot locations but, of course not the sorta thing you want to use in a crowded tiny Church!!

A front mount vest takes seconds to put on..just drop it over your head, fasten the last side buckle and pull the belt tight. Snap in the arm and you are ready to roll....however it's not the kinda rig that you grab and shoot for maybe 20 seconds and then go back to handheld. I have used my rig for brides walking down the aisle (it was a nice wide Church) but normally I just use it for the video part of the photoshoot doing the usual 360's around the couple etc etc...bit boring but they love it!!!

I would suspect that putting on a wrist brace takes almost as long as a vest although you will save a tiny amount of time as you don't have an arm to connect to the sled!!

What sorta weight all up is your sled with the camera on it????? Yeah I getting old too!!

Chris

Re: Balancing a glidecam !?
 

So you coughed up $2K for a vest? Sounds cool though if it is easy to get on and off. I'll have to make due till I get some more income. : ( This is mostly a hobby for me for now, with some paid gigs to keep me breaking even. I would love to go full-force but my kids are all still at home and they need their mommy. : )

I have a 60D with a Tokina 11-16, so whatever all that weighs on an HD-2000. It's just that top, tiny, little muscle on my shoulder that burns like crazy after about 30 seconds! That back brace seems to have helped a lot!

Re: Balancing a glidecam !?
 

Hi Lisa

Not at all!! In fact CineCity have the comfort vest and arm which has ferrules that fit the glidecam handle for under $390!!!!....I used to use one and it made all the difference but cos I use HMC82 cams that, combined with a sled, clock in at nearly 15lbs, and were way too heavy for the smaller vest...I use their new rig now which has the bigger front mount vest, dual arm, sled and docking stand for $925.00. It works out of the box too!!! Normally their rigs need a lot of tweaking first!!!

However for a 60D on a sled a smaller vest would work for you and take all that strain off your arm and shoulder too!!! You can drop it over your head, snap in the buckle and velcro belt, clip on the arm and your current sled and camera would have something to support them. It's not the highest Steadicam technology but it certainly works well and I used the Comfort Vest for 4 full seasons before upgrading cameras!! If you want more info just search eBay for "Comfort Arm and Vest"

Chris

Re: Balancing a glidecam !?
 

Chris! That is so way cool! Thank you so much for redirecting me!

If I do a music video as I've recently been asked me to do, I will definitely be looking seriously into getting one o'these! (I'm so excited for my singer/songwriter niece who's had some big names noticing her, flying her out to L.A. even!) She's asked me to do a "real" music video so we have been helping her out every way we can. This would just be another way! See! It's for the good of our niece! ; )

Hmm, might be on here asking about how to swing a music video soon! Yikes!

Re: Balancing a glidecam !?
 

Chris, I'm glad you are happy with your Cinecity gear. I am however guessing you haven't tried the Steadicam brand versions of the comparable gear as you would probably indicate an even wider gap between the two.

I post this just as a bit of a warning to Lisa who might be thinking that she can get into something that closely approximates the $2000 Merlin/Pilot vest and arm for a fraction of the cost; Lisa, you noted that amount for the vest--the arm is the really critical element of that combo. The isoelastic technology that Tiffen uses is unequalled for the small stabilizers and is far more sophisticated than the basic spring arm that Cinecity and other manufacturers are forced to use to avoid patent issues. What you will tend to see with this design and a very light rig like a Glidecam with DSLR is a lot of bouncing when you walk due to non-linearity in the arm design. Frankly even the Merlin/Pilot arm suffers from this a little bit when used with a stabilizer this small, not because of design issues, but because there is so little weight being carried on the arm (it works great used in conjunction with a slightly heavier rig like the Pilot).

If however the intention is not so much to achieve perfectly smooth images but to relieve the weight of the system from the hands, then this is a reasonably priced solution. I will note that I have heard complaints from people who have purchased Cinecity stabilizers regarding design and build quality--but that is to be expected at this price point.

Re: Balancing a glidecam !?
 

Hi Charles

I'm not for one moment offering the option as a replacement..rather than an drastically less expensive option!! Lisa has family and home costs to content with before buying gear and the Comfort Vest WILL help her get better footage than a quivering and aching arm trying to hold a sled up.

What's the expression?? "You have to cut your suit according to the cloth????" Yep I have used a Flyer LE and it's a remarkable and beautifully made piece of machinery ..over here it's around $9000.00 new. Unless you are doing enough work to justify a $9K investment then simple business sense says look for alternatives. If I could justify the cost of an LE against the work it does in my weddings then yes, I would grab one. I'm currently using their new 5500 and it's way ahead of the older flycams ..in fact the first one that works "out of the box" with no alignment or balance issues at all.

If Lisa was a full-time wedding DSLR specialist with 5D MarkII's and a myriad of lenses making maybe $200,000 a year then it would be silly to suggest an Indian Rig over a Full Merlin or Flyer as her income would support the purchase easily. She's a hardworking mom with little spare cash who does this as a hobby hence the "cheaper" suggestion.

Still gotta love the genuine Steadicam rigs though!!!! One day????

Chris

Re: Shoulder to Wrist Support Idea
 

With regard to the chain of purchases, that's been my problem. While looking for a new video camera I was given one by a relative. It had a built-in mic that didn't provide the audio I wanted so I bought a mic. Well, it was an XLR model and the camera had a 3.5mm mini input, so then a Pre-amp was required, and so on and on it went. Three mics later, video tripod, three-light LED setup, reflector, umbrella, ...... so I can relate.

Okay, to tired arm issue. I got a Glide Cam 2000 with a wrist support and I have to say the wrist support works very good. It really helps to keep the wrist from getting tired and worn out, but like the equipment purchases example, it just transfers the load to the next joint which is the elbow.

Solution (maybe): Come up with a shoulder harness that will allow one to attach an elastic material like a shock cord to the top of the right shoulder (if you're right handed) and run it down to the wrist. The cord being strong enough to offset the weight of the gear, like a counter balance. The shoulder harness would have to not allow the cord attach point to rotate forward. Maybe a webbing from the attach point down the back to, say, a belt. If you're wearing a battery pack maybe it could go to the belt holding it.

Plan B: If all else fails, call Glide Cam and talk to their model and ask her how she does it?

Plan C: Last resort (or maybe the first resort?) Dump the darn thing on your husband and tell him it's all his.

Re: Balancing a glidecam !?
 

Hi all! Just joined the ranks after finding a killer deal on a mint GC HD4000 with vest and arm. Got the sled balanced (thanks for all the posts on how to get it just right!) Its setup with my XF300 and with the help of a friend who's been using the Pilot for a few years, should be able to get up to speed pretty quickly.

Can't wait to offer my clients this service! (and before anyone says it, I will still be hiring my friend as he's really good and flies a 5D and a Red. Totally different look)