Rebel or 10D at DVinfo.net

Harry Settle · June 10th, 2004, 10:20 AM

WITHOUT considering the hack for the Rebel. I would like some advice on why I should, or shouldn't buy the 10d over the Rebel.

I would be using it mainly for personal use, but, may use it for occasional portraiture or weddings.

Charles Papert · June 10th, 2004, 03:23 PM

Harry:

I deliberated between the two and ultimately settled on the 10D. I will admit getting a fabulous deal on a factory refurbished unit that negated the price difference, but I think in retrospect it would have been worth it at the higher price. Given that the images produced are virtually identical, it comes down to ergonomics and interface, and for me the 10D was much nicer to hold and work with than the Rebel.

The new 8 megapix version will be out this summer, so it's probably worth waiting for either that or price drops on the existing 10D.

I absolutely love the camera, it's inspired me to get back into still photography after an ambivalent 10 or 15 years. As far as portraiture: my girlfriend needed new headshots (she's an actress, god help me!) and we were prepared to spend the money on having a "pro" do them. We decided to do some test shots at home with the 10D to see how it would go. Other than the desperately cool concept of being able to snap a series, then download and examine them to figure out what worked or not, then go shoot another round (like full-res Polaroids without the fuss), the pictures came out beautifully and we have no intention of hiring someone to do any more. The first job she sent them pictures out, she was hired for (on the strength of the pictures, they said). I personally love the skin tones, Canon really has something going with this (I'm an XL1 fan also).

Ken Tanaka · June 10th, 2004, 03:52 PM

Elements of Charles' story are similar to mine. I had been away from real still photography for nearly 20 years. I have several good film camera bodies and lenses gathering dust in my closet. I also have an Elph and an Olympus C2500L digital camera (pretty good little cam). But it wasn't until I got the 10D that my interest in still photography really rekindled. It feels and looks like a professional camera, not a hobby camera. It demands that you pay attention to what you're doing.

The DRebel was not on the market when I got my 10D. But I have to say that I would have chosen the 10D even if it was available.

One way to make the decision is to consider what compromises the 10D might force upon you in the short-term. Could you, for example, afford to get a top-notch lens for the 10D right away? How about a tripod or other accessories that you might need? If the answer is no, perhaps the Rebel is the better choice as it will allow you to fully enjoy the camera right away.

Of course, in the final analysis, the photographer matters far more than the camera. If you're interested in photography I think you'll really enjoy either choice. They're both incredible values.

Josh Allen · June 12th, 2004, 01:28 AM

I have the Digi Rebel and love it. To me the deciding differences between the DR and 10D are the body. If you would be putting it through heavy/demanding use I would think the 10D body would hold up better.

I take my DR to the motocross track to take pics every time I ride and it has held up good so far, but I have only had it about 9 months.

Here is a link to one of my favorite shots I got with the digi rebel and an inexpensive Tamron lens:

http://www.zoohoot.com/media/images/...GMCC60%7E1.jpg

Jeff Donald · June 12th, 2004, 02:09 PM

Very nice shot Josh.

Ken Tanaka · June 12th, 2004, 06:40 PM

Is that John Locke on that bicycle?! <g>

Josh Allen · June 12th, 2004, 07:53 PM

LOL...no, that would be Robert Locke of Texas :)

Thanks Jeff!

Tommy Haupfear · July 3rd, 2004, 08:36 AM

Harry, I started off with a Digital Rebel and was not impressed with the body and lack of features compared to the 10D. I then upgraded to the 10D and while both are great cams I think the extra money spent on a 10D is worth it.

- and I'm not just saying that because I have a 10D in the classifieds here. :)

Aaron Rosen · July 3rd, 2004, 11:55 PM

I dig my Rebel. I wouldnt trade it since Im not a big still guy and for point and shoot its great. Im sure it has its limitations but for me it has been a dream.

BTW- What hack?

Jeff Donald · July 4th, 2004, 03:52 AM

Look further down the forum and you'll see Keith's thread and my thread on the subject of Rebel hacks.

John Garcia · July 9th, 2004, 03:37 PM

check out my site:

http://www.john-garcia.com

i have alot of 10D photography on there.

- john

June 10th, 2004, 10:20 AM	#1
Harry Settle Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bemidji, MN Posts: 276	Rebel or 10D WITHOUT considering the hack for the Rebel. I would like some advice on why I should, or shouldn't buy the 10d over the Rebel. I would be using it mainly for personal use, but, may use it for occasional portraiture or weddings. __________________ "DOH"!!!

June 10th, 2004, 03:23 PM	#2
Charles Papert Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,810	Harry: I deliberated between the two and ultimately settled on the 10D. I will admit getting a fabulous deal on a factory refurbished unit that negated the price difference, but I think in retrospect it would have been worth it at the higher price. Given that the images produced are virtually identical, it comes down to ergonomics and interface, and for me the 10D was much nicer to hold and work with than the Rebel. The new 8 megapix version will be out this summer, so it's probably worth waiting for either that or price drops on the existing 10D. I absolutely love the camera, it's inspired me to get back into still photography after an ambivalent 10 or 15 years. As far as portraiture: my girlfriend needed new headshots (she's an actress, god help me!) and we were prepared to spend the money on having a "pro" do them. We decided to do some test shots at home with the 10D to see how it would go. Other than the desperately cool concept of being able to snap a series, then download and examine them to figure out what worked or not, then go shoot another round (like full-res Polaroids without the fuss), the pictures came out beautifully and we have no intention of hiring someone to do any more. The first job she sent them pictures out, she was hired for (on the strength of the pictures, they said). I personally love the skin tones, Canon really has something going with this (I'm an XL1 fan also). __________________ Charles Papert www.charlespapert.com

June 10th, 2004, 03:52 PM	#3
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Elements of Charles' story are similar to mine. I had been away from real still photography for nearly 20 years. I have several good film camera bodies and lenses gathering dust in my closet. I also have an Elph and an Olympus C2500L digital camera (pretty good little cam). But it wasn't until I got the 10D that my interest in still photography really rekindled. It feels and looks like a professional camera, not a hobby camera. It demands that you pay attention to what you're doing. The DRebel was not on the market when I got my 10D. But I have to say that I would have chosen the 10D even if it was available. One way to make the decision is to consider what compromises the 10D might force upon you in the short-term. Could you, for example, afford to get a top-notch lens for the 10D right away? How about a tripod or other accessories that you might need? If the answer is no, perhaps the Rebel is the better choice as it will allow you to fully enjoy the camera right away. Of course, in the final analysis, the photographer matters far more than the camera. If you're interested in photography I think you'll really enjoy either choice. They're both incredible values. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

June 12th, 2004, 02:09 PM	#5
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Very nice shot Josh. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

June 12th, 2004, 06:40 PM	#6
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Is that John Locke on that bicycle?! <g> __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

June 12th, 2004, 01:28 AM	#4
Josh Allen Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Wildomar, CA Posts: 89	I have the Digi Rebel and love it. To me the deciding differences between the DR and 10D are the body. If you would be putting it through heavy/demanding use I would think the 10D body would hold up better. I take my DR to the motocross track to take pics every time I ride and it has held up good so far, but I have only had it about 9 months. Here is a link to one of my favorite shots I got with the digi rebel and an inexpensive Tamron lens: http://www.zoohoot.com/media/images/...GMCC60%7E1.jpg

June 12th, 2004, 07:53 PM	#7
Josh Allen Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Wildomar, CA Posts: 89	LOL...no, that would be Robert Locke of Texas :) Thanks Jeff!

July 3rd, 2004, 08:36 AM	#8
Tommy Haupfear Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,415	Harry, I started off with a Digital Rebel and was not impressed with the body and lack of features compared to the 10D. I then upgraded to the 10D and while both are great cams I think the extra money spent on a 10D is worth it. - and I'm not just saying that because I have a 10D in the classifieds here. :)

July 3rd, 2004, 11:55 PM	#9
Aaron Rosen Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: HB, CA - USA Posts: 298	I dig my Rebel. I wouldnt trade it since Im not a big still guy and for point and shoot its great. Im sure it has its limitations but for me it has been a dream. BTW- What hack?

July 4th, 2004, 03:52 AM	#10
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Look further down the forum and you'll see Keith's thread and my thread on the subject of Rebel hacks. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

July 9th, 2004, 03:37 PM	#11
John Garcia Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 199	check out my site: http://www.john-garcia.com i have alot of 10D photography on there. - john __________________ John Garcia