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Nicholas Valentine February 6th, 2006 01:16 PM

Thanks A.J. I'll go your route.

Pat Sherman February 6th, 2006 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heather Darling
Use Sorensen Squeeze to convert your video files to an flv file. The program costs about 215.00 but well worth the piece of mind. It's on ebay right now with a buy it now for $100 and there's another starting out at $30. You would still need flash to create the .swf. If you don't have flash you could always download the trial to setup your current videos. It's pretty simple.

I was going to mention Premiere Pro 2, but Mike beat me to it..

So enode away then just get something like WimpyAV Player for your website and flash away or design your own player..

Mike Cook February 8th, 2006 06:27 AM

Mark and other posters,

Don't let guys like this ruin the environment for all. There is so much to be learned from watching others work and learning from it. I too had my work passed off by someone else. While this stopped me from passing our project files (AE project) I won't let this stop me from helping move the wedding video industry to a higher level.

The best way to torpedo guys like this is keep pushing your work higher. Posers like this will be shown for what they are in no time. While they may be able to fool a few people for a little while it won't take long for them to fade away.

Along with Joe I will help spread the work in the LA area. Meanwhile we should persue avenues to protect our work via Flash and others. Help each other police ourselves.

Mike

Joe Allen Rosenberger February 8th, 2006 09:45 PM

Well, I am guessing that many of the users here pounded this guy at www.integrityvideo.com about the crap he pulled by stealing others work and using it as his own. His site is down, chances are ....he'll do it again so I will be on the "look out" here in Southern Cali, that is where hes located. He also disconnected his phone or changed he number!

Mark Von Lanken February 10th, 2006 09:44 AM

Thanks Everyone!
 
I would like to thank everyone for their support. Here's the latest. Integrityvideo.com is a blank page. I called him and his phone number has been disconnected. So now at least Brides in his area will not be able to easily reach him, and it is the Brides that I wanted to protect the most.

Just for some clarification. He stole clips from our training videos and not our website. Some have encouraged us not to let this guy's lack of integrity stop us from sharing our work. Let me assure you, we will not let one bad apple ruin it for everyone. We will continue to offer training materials, give seminars and have video clips on our website.

I would especially like to thank the local California videographers for spreading the word on this guy and keeping a watch out for him. I will continue to monitor his website.

Joe Allen Rosenberger February 10th, 2006 01:29 PM

You're welcome Mark.....and I don't think this incident will ruin anything as in folks not sharing, training vids ,etc....it just brings a sense of awareness to all of us that there are idiots like this out there.....




Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Von Lanken
I would like to thank everyone for their support. Here's the latest. Integrityvideo.com is a blank page. I called him and his phone number has been disconnected. So now at least Brides in his area will not be able to easily reach him, and it is the Brides that I wanted to protect the most.

Just for some clarification. He stole clips from our training videos and not our website. Some have encouraged us not to let this guy's lack of integrity stop us from sharing our work. Let me assure you, we will not let one bad apple ruin it for everyone. We will continue to offer training materials, give seminars and have video clips on our website.

I would especially like to thank the local California videographers for spreading the word on this guy and keeping a watch out for him. I will continue to monitor his website.


Mark Von Lanken February 20th, 2006 10:34 AM

He's Back!
 
That's right, Mel is back at it.
http://integrityvideo.com/oneknight4...%20Gallery.htm

Sometimes the clips work and sometimes they don't. I had the best luck downloading the clips in a new window.

I have contacted his ISP's legal team. I'll let you know their response.

Richard Alvarez February 20th, 2006 10:47 AM

Just as a question, are the training videos this guy ripped of registered with the copyright office?

(Yes, yes, I know they are automatically copyrighted the moment they are fixed in a tangible medium... I'm married to a copyright attorney.)

Because if you have sent the training videos in to the Copyright Office and registered them, the DAMAGES you can collect will be much higher than if you hadn't.

Just one more reason to go through the extra steps of licking a stamp.

(Good move on contacting the ISP. If they leave his site up after being notified that he's in infringement, they become liable. He may not have deep pockets, but I'll bet they do.)

Pat Sherman February 20th, 2006 02:52 PM

You know I think Mark is missing a marketing opportunity here.. Just start selling clips already encoded in your favorite codecs for videographers to use as marketing materials. No Watermarks, they own the copyright and at $300.00 per 5 minute clip, heck..

Pat Sherman February 20th, 2006 02:58 PM

This is the reason I encode everything in Flash Video now and built a flash player embedded into a SWF that loads the external FLV file into a frame. Then I disable the Flash right-click menu and fill the page with only the flash file. It won't stop the hardcore high-tech guys, but it stops Integrity Video type guys..

It's sorta like a alarm system, they see it and the right-click save as doesn't work they will keep going to find something easier to steal..

Not to mention Flash 8 player is free and runs on macs and pc's so I don't have to deal with these emails

"I tried to view your clip but I don't have this quicktime program and your site sent me to the quicktime download, but it sounds like this could be a virus, I'll have to call AOL and see if it's ok to install this quicktime it would really be easier if you just put the dvd on the website so I can watch it with my PowerDVD player, everything is doing it."

Travis Cossel February 20th, 2006 03:49 PM

FYI - the Quicktime player is just as free as the Flash player, as is the Windows Media player. In my experience, people are more likely to have the updated Quicktime or Windows Media players. Just a thought.

Randy Boose February 20th, 2006 04:15 PM

Maybe you can start posting this stuff in some of the bridal/wedding online places. Just to let the brides know that there are people out there pretending to be well qualified videographers, but are actually hacks.

Pat Sherman February 20th, 2006 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Cossel
FYI - the Quicktime player is just as free as the Flash player, as is the Windows Media player. In my experience, people are more likely to have the updated Quicktime or Windows Media players. Just a thought.

Travis

I agree.. However it's much easier for someone to rip a .MOV or .WMV then a .FLV filed called as an external file from the .SWF file and which wouldn't let the user see the name of the clip..

In regards to most people, even better reason for Flash 8 video the dudes looking to rip will just move on..:)

Travis Cossel February 20th, 2006 10:27 PM

Well, I agree as well. Definitely more work involved in ripping off a Flash file.

I just choose to post Quicktime and Windows Media files because that serves my clients better, and the odds that my videos are going to be ripped off are pretty small, and even if they are it won't really affect my clients, which is where my primary concern lies.

Pat Sherman February 20th, 2006 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Cossel
Well, I agree as well. Definitely more work involved in ripping off a Flash file.

I just choose to post Quicktime and Windows Media files because that serves my clients better, and the odds that my videos are going to be ripped off are pretty small, and even if they are it won't really affect my clients, which is where my primary concern lies.


True that..

Robert M Wright February 26th, 2006 01:00 AM

A Couple of Thoughts
 
You can't really stop someone from stealing clips that you put up on the world-wide-web, if they are really, really just absolutely determined (some sleaze ball with a real mind to, can write software to intercept the data stream at the TCP/IP data packet level, if nothing else), but you sure can make it difficult (and lower forms of life aren't usually to bright). Using java script is one approach, where your HTML document calls a java script routine from another file on your server, that contains the path information for the video file, rather than having that information wide out in the open on the HTML page. You can also take out indentation and line break formatting in your HTML, to make it a little harder to read. There's lots of ways to make things tougher to steal.

Another approach, would be to plan out the clips, from the get-go, as much as is practical, to include your website address, conspicuously displayed, with some artistry, in places that would be quite difficult to remove it, without utterly ruining the clips (do what you do best: be creative!). That way, if some scum-ball, miserable excuse for pond scum, does steal your material and put it up on their site, they'll be advertising for you! (and you can send them a thank you card at Christmas time!)

Mike Cook February 26th, 2006 02:14 AM

Mark,

Having paid for a couple of your videos and benifited from them I would be interested in helping. Do you have a physical address on this guy?

Mike

Dan Euritt February 26th, 2006 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat Sherman
I agree.. However it's much easier for someone to rip a .MOV or .WMV then a .FLV filed called as an external file from the .SWF file and which wouldn't let the user see the name of the clip..

in the case of wmv, your statement is only correct if you put the clip on the web as an http-sourced file... if it's served up as a .wsx-sourced(or similar) file, the actual file source location is buried in the .wsx reference file, which makes it very difficult to download the clip itself to someone's hard drive, in a file that they can steal and post elsewhere.

you can serve up your wmv files from those .wsx links by renting streams on a windows media server; there are many places on the 'net to do that, and the prices can actually be pretty reasonable... one advantage to doing that is better download performance than you'll get with http-sourced files, or flash files, for that matter.

if you are going to use flash, do it only with the new on2 codec version of flash, as all of the older flash codecs are garbage... it took flash a long time to step up to the video quality that has been around for years, with wmv and realmedia.

the best solution for removing copyrighted material from a website is to send a dmca takedown notice to the webhosting company that owns the server that hosts the stolen clips, and they are required by law to take the website down immediately(within 3 days?)... they don't even have to notify the webmaster of the offending site.

you do want to make sure that your complaint is legit, because there are provisions within the dmca for a big fine, for those who file false copyright takedown notices... but i think that dmca copyright notices have become very common these days, most big webhosting sites have links directly to their dmca complaint departments.

Mark Von Lanken February 26th, 2006 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert M Wright
You can't really stop someone from stealing clips that you put up on the world-wide-web...

Hi Robert,

The clips that were stolen were taken from our training DVDs, but thanks for all of the great information on protecting web based video. You are very well versed on the subject.

Mark Von Lanken February 26th, 2006 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Cook
Mark,
Having paid for a couple of your videos and benifited from them I would be interested in helping. Do you have a physical address on this guy?
Mike

Hi Mike,
Thanks for the offer. No, I don't have a physical address. This is all I have.
Morrison, Melzin melmorrison2005@yahoo.com
PO BOX 4171
Westminster, CA 92683
714-379-3804

Robert M Wright February 26th, 2006 11:23 PM

I took a quick look at WHOIS info for the registrant info for that domain, and it would appear that the gent/lady in question would prefer not to have phone or physical contact (surprise, surprise).

You might consider looking up his ISP's phone number and giving them a little jingle, to see if they might be willing to offer up an address (or phone number) for the enterprising entrepreneur, prior to just slamming the doors on the site.

Pat Sherman February 27th, 2006 12:16 PM

Who Da Man...

Melzin Morrison is actually Melvin Morrison.

BUSINESS NAME:INTEGRITY VIDEO PRODUCTIONS
LOCATIONS:1
REGISTRATION NUMBER: 20056047318
FILE DATE: 10/20/2005
EXPIRATION DATE: 10/20/2010
LAST NAME OR COMPANY: MORRISON
FIRST NAME: MELVIN
DOCUMENT TYPE: FBN
PUB:YES

Pat Sherman February 27th, 2006 12:22 PM

bUT Wait.. he's not done.. Yet..

FIRST NAME:MELVIN
LAST NAME:MORRISON
No. Of Owners:1
BUSINESS NAME:SIERRA VIDEO PRODUCTIONS
LOCATIONS: 1
Registration Number:20066060610
File Date:02/16/2006
Expiration Date: 02/16/2011
DOCUMENT TYPE:FBN
PUB:NO

Dat guy dare is trying to outsmart the Von Lanken's..

Mike Oveson February 27th, 2006 12:46 PM

Might that be the same as:

Sierra Video Productions
PO Box 153
Big Creek, CA 93605
Phone: 559 269-2480
Cell: 893-3145

I don't know. It was just the first thing I could find that seemed to match. But I don't mean to ruin anyone else's reputation. Any way we can verify?

Pat Sherman February 27th, 2006 02:55 PM

I don't think so.. That place is in Fresno county and ole Smelvin registered his FBN (Fictious Business Name) in Orange County..

But hell I could be wrong, two states up in Washington.. So maybe someone from CA knows if Big Creek is in Orange County or not..

Pat Sherman February 27th, 2006 03:03 PM

Possibly

1. MORRISON, MELVIN 7872 TRASK AVE WESTMINSTER CA 92683 42 10/07/1963 (714) 895-5099
2. MORRISON, MELVIN 205 EASTVIEW WESTMINSTER CA 92684 42 10/07/1963 (714) 895-5099
3. MORRISON, MELVIN 205 EASTVIEW DR WESTMINSTER CA 92684 42 10/07/1963 (714) 895-5099
4. MORRISON, MELVIN 13522 ILLINOIS ST WESTMINSTER CA 92683 42 07/10/1963 379-5530
5. MORRISON, MELVIN 1428 PO BOX WESTMINSTER CA 92684 42 07/10/1963 379-5530
6. MORRISON, MELVIN 336 PO BOX WESTMINSTER CA 92684

Robert M Wright February 27th, 2006 05:15 PM

Maybe Mark could cross-reference his sales records and come up with a match to some of the aforementioned name/address/phone possibilities?

Seth Palmer February 27th, 2006 09:05 PM

This is like Cold Case or CSI or something...yous guys are good.

Pat Sherman February 27th, 2006 09:13 PM

LOL.. It's all in the google baby.. all in the google..

Mike Cook February 27th, 2006 11:49 PM

Wow, this is getting really interesting. Westminster is very close to me. Perhaps I should set up a sting at the local Post Office. I could get some of those neat-o lipstick cams and a meatball sub. Nothin' says stake out like a meatball sub...

Mike

Matt Trubac March 1st, 2006 04:46 PM

Not Entirely Related But...
 
I have been getting visits to my website referred from a russian site.

I don't speak russian but tried using a translator to figure it out... which was taking too long, but it seems to be a site like dvinfo.net and the russians are studying our videos and pricing.

Are we winning the wedding videography race?

http://www.1dv.ru/forums/lofiversion...hp/t19658.html

Pat Sherman March 1st, 2006 05:54 PM

LOL! Dave is popular with them...


This only obtained rule for which it is possible to banit' me to the pair with the data by post .
The disturbances of copyrights I do not see, therefore as references they go deliberately from the ultimate source and rightholders lay out them as demki on their sites for the free running off.
In the division "let us show all our of videotvoreniya" they be present the same similar references to our Russian sites.
Did not want to leave this list only to itself; therefore placed everything for all.

Chris Hurd March 28th, 2006 08:50 AM

This thread was hanging out in the Wedding forum, but I thought it would be more appropriate for our TCB forum. Also edited the title to more accurately reflect what's going on.

Mike Cavanaugh March 28th, 2006 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Von Lanken
Three of the clips came from our training videos and I'm even in one of the clips.

Mark,

Aside from legal action about stealing your clips/creative product, I would think you also have a potential personal suit against him. He is using your image (self) without your permission and posting it in a manner that was not intended when you agreed to appear (in your OWN video product) He needs to have a model release from you.

Now that Chris has moved this thread to TCB, maybe some of our more knowlegble legal folks will chime in.

Good luck.

Greg Boston March 28th, 2006 10:57 AM

My thoughts after reading through this thread.

Can the California Attorney General's office be contacted? Many state attorney general offices will go after stuff like this.

Local tv investigative reporters also like stuff such as this. Especially if they are protecting the consumer (brides in this case) from fraud. Wouldn't it be fun to see ol' Melvin with a full sized ENG cam in his face being asked some hard questions about his business practices on the 6:00 news.

Those folks who are on the Windows platform might like to check out Swishmax which is a killer Flash making application. Much more user friendly than Macromedia's own version. This is in reference to the protective measures outlined earlier in this thread wrt video on the web.

Good luck Mark and thanks to all the others who have offered to help and to Pat for his sleuthing skills. I can't ever get all this stuff out of Google.

-gb-

Peter Jefferson March 29th, 2006 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowell Oswald
Very good point Joe-

I'm not sure how many people will go through the hassle of ordering a dvd then ripping it-converting it-then editing it. But I guess it is definately a possibility.

What are options to legally go after these kind of people? Just curious...I'd prefer to 'happen' upon them in a dark parking lot...

Ive had this happen to me. And as far as legalities go, by the time proceedings are up and running, theyve gtten rid of all the evidence, so its a shot in the dark, UNLESS you can prove that its your work, which is where screncapture software like camtasia come into play.

Mark, go grab camtasia and visit this site, downlaod their clips and record all your actvity while you are there. With camtasio open, open up your calendar so u hav a record of time and date for when u vsted the site.
This now becomes ur evidense against this thief.
Take ur original works and your new evidence to a lawyer and nail these bastards...

Tammy Buchanan June 16th, 2006 01:26 AM

nail the *******
 
I am curious about Smelvin,the photo thief...Im sure he's up to his dirty little tricks,somewhere in cyber space.lol...funny,it seems, I too have fallen victim to his "dirty deeds done cheap".I happened on this site by accident a few weeks ago, and have been checking daily for updates...u are 100% right in your quest.......keep the info flowing.....


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