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Mark Von Lanken February 4th, 2006 10:38 PM

Check This Out -- My Stolen Clips
 
Checkout these clips because you may just find some that you recognize from your own work. Three of the clips came from our training videos and I'm even in one of the clips. Of course he changed the music, so the visuals don't match the music. The three that are mine are, Misty Cry, Unforgetable and Sunburst.
http://www.integrityvideo.com/Page%2...%20Gallery.htm

Travis Cossel February 4th, 2006 11:08 PM

I'm confused. Are you saying this place is using your footage without your permission?

Jason Bowers February 4th, 2006 11:55 PM

Mark,
Have you contacted this person, because this is direct copyright violation and could potentially be sued for posting your work and claiming it as his own. Not to mention that he is blatantly misrepresenting his company to his clients by suggesting that he can produce the creativity of your videos in his own work. Please keep us posted on your progress because this is a major violation of trust among videographers and posting our work on this site.

A.J. Briones February 5th, 2006 12:12 AM

the "steadycam" clip is from a vendor.

i love that they're called "integrity video". nice touch.

Pat Sherman February 5th, 2006 02:13 AM

Morrison, Melzin melmorrison2005@yahoo.com
PO BOX 4171
Westminster, CA 92683
714-379-3804

Hrm

Glen Elliott February 5th, 2006 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Von Lanken
Checkout these clips because you may just find some that you recognize from your own work. Three of the clips came from our training videos and I'm even in one of the clips. Of course he changed the music, so the visuals don't match the music. The three that are mine are, Misty Cry, Unforgetable and Sunburst.
http://www.integrityvideo.com/Page%2...%20Gallery.htm

"Integrity" Video- if I didn't know any better I'd think this entire site was a jest. How ironic!

Mark I'm sorry this happened to you. Kinda make you want to place a watermark right smack-dab in the middle of your training material clips. The three that are yours don't seem to link anywhere now. I'd have mr.integrity remove the thumbnails too beings that's your work as well.

Let us know what happens and how your coorespondence goes.

Pat Sherman February 5th, 2006 11:33 AM

No they work, just have to save as, he's got some JAVA errors on that page..

Joe Allen Rosenberger February 5th, 2006 12:38 PM

Mark- Have you contacted this person yet...and if so, what did they have to say? I would be steamin' if someone was fronting my work as their own!

Mark Von Lanken February 5th, 2006 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Cossel
I'm confused. Are you saying this place is using your footage without your permission?

Hi Travis,

Yes, that's exactly what I am saying. He took clips from my training materials, changed the music, covered up my watermark with his own and is passing it off as his own work. I really feel sorry for Brides that book him based on samples from other videographers, because obviously, he is not able to shoot or edit like me or anyone else he has stolen work from.

Mark Von Lanken February 5th, 2006 01:14 PM

Hi Guys,

Thanks for all of your support. No, I haven't contacted him yet. I don't want him to pull the clips until the other videographers that he has ripped off get a chance to view the clips. Like I said, there are 8 wedding clips and only 3 of them are mine.

Joe Allen Rosenberger February 5th, 2006 01:34 PM

Mark, I just searched this guy on the net, there's another company not too far from him about 3 hrs away called www.integrityvideo.net, but there name is Integrity Video, looks like he may have used that name without researching if it was used already...I don;t know the legalities with that but it doesn;t sound cool....maybe he stole someone's name too????

Pat Sherman February 5th, 2006 03:05 PM

Warning
 
Whatever you do don't click www.integrityvideo.com/images

Pat Sherman February 5th, 2006 03:29 PM

He's a photographer also..Mad Skills

Here's his portfolio.

http://integrityvideo.com/Photo%20Po...%20045_jpg.htm

Now see that pic.. Using my super secret squirrel google mastery techniques, I found that same image here. Which I assume is the original

www.davehoare.com/slideshow. php?album=44&photo=18

Pat Sherman February 5th, 2006 03:55 PM

Ahhh.. Come on.. Who tipped him off? He's slowly pulling down the site..

Pat Sherman February 5th, 2006 04:40 PM

I was able to track down two other videos to a San Deigo Videographer.. Any luck on the others?

http://www.frontburnervideo.com/html/web_video.html

Specifically:
http://www.frontburnervideo.com/Vide...ed_Prog001.wmv

http://www.sandiegovideographer.com/...Sm_Prog001.wmv

Joe Allen Rosenberger February 5th, 2006 05:08 PM

Mark-

How did you ever come across your work by this guy???? I'm sure there are scumbags all over the place doing this sort of thing, but how did you happen to find your work on www.intergityvideo.com's website. Is there a way for any of us to check for this sort of thing beside randomly looking at others' website's.....if so, please share. Thanks- J



Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Von Lanken
Checkout these clips because you may just find some that you recognize from your own work. Three of the clips came from our training videos and I'm even in one of the clips. Of course he changed the music, so the visuals don't match the music. The three that are mine are, Misty Cry, Unforgetable and Sunburst.
http://www.integrityvideo.com/Page%2...%20Gallery.htm


Mike Cook February 5th, 2006 06:59 PM

Hey Mark,

I live not too far away from this poser. I'd be glad to pay him a visit for you....(late at night....)

Mike

A.J. Briones February 5th, 2006 07:09 PM

it makes me worry because none of my clips are watermarked. i'm seriously considering pulling them.

Mark Von Lanken February 5th, 2006 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat Sherman
I was able to track down two other videos to a San Deigo Videographer.. Any luck on the others?

Hi Pat,

Good work. Some have mentioned that the site is down, but it's still up and the video clips still work.

Mark Von Lanken February 5th, 2006 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Allen Rosenberger
Mark-

How did you ever come across your work by this guy???? I'm sure there are scumbags all over the place doing this sort of thing, but how did you happen to find your work on www.intergityvideo.com's website. Is there a way for any of us to check for this sort of thing beside randomly looking at others' website's.....if so, please share. Thanks- J

Hi Joe,

Another videographer that had purchased our training material recognized our clips on his site, otherwise I wouldn't have known about it.

Mark Von Lanken February 5th, 2006 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A.J. Briones
it makes me worry because none of my clips are watermarked. i'm seriously considering pulling them.

Hi A.J.

All of the videos on our training material are watermarked, but that didn't stop him. He just covered it up with his own logo.

Mike Cook February 5th, 2006 08:04 PM

With Marks case I don't know how you can really protect yourself from this stuff but with web clips is there not a way to post clips that can be viewed but not downloaded?

I am not all that web savy so maybe one of the webbies can address a method to help prevent web clips from being grabbed.

Any takers?

mike

Lowell Oswald February 5th, 2006 08:19 PM

That is ridiculous! I can't believe someone would be so stupid.

I have a fairly good way to protect against this...Use Flash.

I've got all of my wedding videos compressed into .flv files, which are in turn embedded into a .swf file that is called from my main site's .swf file...it sounds more complicated than it really is.

Have a look for yourself...try to see if you can get any of the clips off the site...I have the videos set to load into the ram and not the temporary internet files folder..

www.ehansenproductions.com

Hope this helps, email me if you need more info on going about using this method!

Mike Cook February 5th, 2006 08:31 PM

Well, perhaps you could start a thread explaining your method for us knuckle heads. I am sure you would have a great many grateful people such as myself.

Glad to see the helping spirit is out there too....

Mike

Lowell Oswald February 5th, 2006 08:41 PM

If there are enough people that want help with this I'd be happy to post a tutorial.

However, this method would require each person to obtain a copy of Macromedia Flash...which can be pricey, especially if it's just for posting videos online.

If it is just a couple people wanting this, I might be able to transfer their videos through flash, make the .swf and .flv files and then give them back on a CD (shipping fees payed by the person) so they could upload them.

But if several people want/need this done, I'll have to have some small fee for this work..it does take time.

Let me know what you all would like,

Lowell

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A.J. Briones February 5th, 2006 09:06 PM

mark... wow. that's pretty damn ridiculous. so where his watermark is now used to have yours? crazy.

hi lowell, a detailed tutorial thread would be awesome. i tried using flash before but i couldn't get the compression settings right... my stuff looked choppy and artifact-y... and i didn't have much time to spare on it so i quit trying.

Heather Darling February 5th, 2006 09:13 PM

Use Sorensen Squeeze to convert your video files to an flv file. The program costs about 215.00 but well worth the piece of mind. It's on ebay right now with a buy it now for $100 and there's another starting out at $30. You would still need flash to create the .swf. If you don't have flash you could always download the trial to setup your current videos. It's pretty simple.

A.J. Briones February 5th, 2006 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heather Darling
Use Sorensen Squeeze to convert your video files to an flv file. The program costs about 215.00 but well worth the piece of mind. It's on ebay right now with a buy it now for $100 and there's another starting out at $30. You would still need flash to create the .swf. If you don't have flash you could always download the trial to setup your current videos. It's pretty simple.

probably why i was doing it wrong... i was making flash embed a quicktime movie (mpeg-4 @ 400kbps) and it just looked horrible.

any suggested sorenson squeeze settings?

Heather Darling February 5th, 2006 09:21 PM

Sorensen has presets for the flv's. Just tell it what video clip you want, pick your preset and go. The only thing you have to use flash for is creating the player that calls the flv video. I have a template setup already for the swf. Unfortunately, my computer is down right now. I should have it back in a few days and I'd be willing to email the swf file to anyone who wants it. The only thing you'd have to do is change the address to where you have the flv uploaded. It does sound a bit complicated, but really it's pretty simple.

Joe Allen Rosenberger February 6th, 2006 12:27 AM

[FLASH.....will not protect SQUAT when someone calls, or emails you asking for a demo dvd.....fronting as if they are a prospective client.....there are a lot of ways to get our footage, FLASH will protect the downloading thing but what about you sending your demos out......and we all do it, well most of us. You cant always tell if someone is fishing for this stuff because they could simply have a friend or girlfriend call you and pose as a bride to be.

I say when mofo's do this......TAKE ACTION on them however you can manage to do it......I WOULD NOT just let it go, but thats me.





QUOTE=Lowell Oswald]That is ridiculous! I can't believe someone would be so stupid.

I have a fairly good way to protect against this...Use Flash.

I've got all of my wedding videos compressed into .flv files, which are in turn embedded into a .swf file that is called from my main site's .swf file...it sounds more complicated than it really is.

Have a look for yourself...try to see if you can get any of the clips off the site...I have the videos set to load into the ram and not the temporary internet files folder..

www.ehansenproductions.com

Hope this helps, email me if you need more info on going about using this method![/QUOTE]

Lowell Oswald February 6th, 2006 02:14 AM

Very good point Joe-

I'm not sure how many people will go through the hassle of ordering a dvd then ripping it-converting it-then editing it. But I guess it is definately a possibility.

What are options to legally go after these kind of people? Just curious...I'd prefer to 'happen' upon them in a dark parking lot...

Joe Allen Rosenberger February 6th, 2006 02:35 AM

hey lowell, well....you would be suprised, think of it like this......you got some scumbag like www.integrityvideo.com who has NO DEMO footage but he aspires to be an "event/wedding videographer"...and maybe he "knows" how to shoot but again....he has no footage of weddings, etc. to display to potential clinets, its easy for he/she to call around.....get demos.....re edit them a little, then post them as his/her own.

to understand the scum....we must think like the scum, and that is a VERY easy way to make it all happen.....and if they get shut down like this guy were talking about has....he starts up under a new name...new website. hes like a cocka roacha.......can't get rid of em'.

i live near the scum we're all talking about....i'll do my best to pass the word out here on this guy to every vendor/camera op...ect. its a smaller world than you think.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowell Oswald
Very good point Joe-

I'm not sure how many people will go through the hassle of ordering a dvd then ripping it-converting it-then editing it. But I guess it is definately a possibility.

What are options to legally go after these kind of people? Just curious...I'd prefer to 'happen' upon them in a dark parking lot...


A.J. Briones February 6th, 2006 09:27 AM

this is the main reason i stopped giving out demos.

Mark Von Lanken February 6th, 2006 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Allen Rosenberger
i live near the scum we're all talking about....i'll do my best to pass the word out here on this guy to every vendor/camera op...ect. its a smaller world than you think.

Hi Joe,

Thanks for spreading the work in your local market. The local vendors really need to know about the low level of ethics www.Integrityvideo.com has. I really wish there was a way to let brides know about it, because they are the ones that will suffer the most form his lack of integrity.

Mark Von Lanken February 6th, 2006 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A.J. Briones
this is the main reason i stopped giving out demos.

Hi A.J.

I know what you mean. It's like a double edged sword. You hate the thought of giving unethical videographers a chance to steal your work. At the same time we just booked a $5500 wedding this morning because we were willing to send a DVD Demo to a bride 100 miles away.

I the case of www.integrityvideo.com , he stole our work from our training materials. Will I stop making training materials? No, because the educational value has done far more to help videograpers than what this guy has done to hurt our industry.

Some have said, how can this guys actions hurt our industry? When the Bride books him based on the abilities of other videographers and then her video doesn't look like the samples she saw on his site, she isn't going to have a very high regard for him or our industy.

Kim Kinser February 6th, 2006 10:43 AM

There really is not much you can do here I think. You would need very deep pockets to litigate and you would also need to prove damages AND they would have to be able to pay.

But, I wouldn't let that sad reality stop you from putting your stuff out there.

In the meantime, perhaps we could all request a copy of their demo to be mailed to us. A few thousand requests for a dvd mailing should be enough to make them choke. And, if not, you know you have someobody worth suing.

Just a thought.

Nicholas Valentine February 6th, 2006 10:43 AM

Well, I just checked the infamous site out and it seems to be down. It's just a gradient background.

I just started my own videography business and I don't have a wedding demo yet. I'm good friends with the owner of a local costume shop (which might have wedding dresses, I don't know yet), and I might stage my own wedding just to have something to show. Is this bad?

Sam Gates February 6th, 2006 11:07 AM

I want to thank those of you who post clips anf allow them to be downloaded.

I only do video for church and as a hobby. Since I do not intend to do this for a living or even seriously, training videos are not practicle. I am currently working on some video shot at my daughter's wedding and working on a slide show of the photographs. I have learned more from watching clips from this forum tan any other sorouce I have found. I learn the most when I download them and watch them again and again looking for what makes them work. Some of them have helped with ideas for editing our church service also.

I hope the actions of a few people do not ruin this learning experience for everyone but I certainly understand your frustration.

Sam

Mike Oveson February 6th, 2006 11:48 AM

I just thought I'd throw something out here for those who use Adobe Premiere Pro. The newest version, 2.0, will now encode to Flash Video without the need for additional software. I haven't done this yet myself as I am a Vegas user, but I thought that the information might be useful to someone.

A.J. Briones February 6th, 2006 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicholas Valentine
Well, I just checked the infamous site out and it seems to be down. It's just a gradient background.

I just started my own videography business and I don't have a wedding demo yet. I'm good friends with the owner of a local costume shop (which might have wedding dresses, I don't know yet), and I might stage my own wedding just to have something to show. Is this bad?

this is going a bit off topic, but here in my city there is a company whose samples look very staged. i don't have a problem with it, but some brides i've spoken to have mentioned them by name, and they felt as though they were being sold a lie when they saw the demo.

it might be better to do a couple of weddings on the cheap or free so you can get sample footage. it's also a great way to learn (by way of jumping in the deep end). it's how we started, and our first wedding ($200) is still generating referrals.


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