Sony HVR-Z1U Help! at DVinfo.net

Joseph Lazare · February 11th, 2005, 09:42 PM

Hey everyone,

my buddy just bought a sony hvr-z1u and we are trying to get the best film-look possible. Now, we first set the camera to cineframe 24 at 60i and while we are shooting, it seems just a bit choppy. Now, what do i do to smooth everything out when i capture. I keep hearing about something called "pull-down"? not sure what this means, so if anyone can help me i would greatly apreciate it.

right now, we are using adobe premier pro.

should i change some settings before i capture?

Thanks a bunch.

Mathieu Ghekiere · February 12th, 2005, 08:28 AM

I don't have the cam, haven't even seen it, but I read on these boards it's cineframe 24 possibility indeed isn't so great.
You could do a search on the boards of the HDV cam.

You could always shoot in 60i and change the look of the framerate with software afterwards.
(I think DVfilmmaker does this - I think that how it's called - or Magic Bullet. Don't know if Magic Bullet does it, but I believe so, it's a plug in for Premiere I believe)

Good luck.

BTW: 24P will never be as smooth as 60i.
Probably you already know this, just wanted to check it.

Stefan Scherperel · February 13th, 2005, 02:28 AM

Try shooting in cineframe 25. It will look much better and is easily converted to 24fps.

Abel Jerrod · February 18th, 2005, 07:02 PM

We (Abel CineTech/LA) are doing some testing on all of the cineframe modes on the Z1. We haven't finished yet, but so far we are not impressed with any of the cineframe modes (24cf, 25cf, or 30cf). All of them have the "choppy" motion you indicated. When we played back from the camera to a Panasonic 17" HD monitor (BT-H1700) it was not as obvious but still there. In the 50i mode (both with the 25cf mode and without) we seemed to have an issue with flickering on the monitor. Still looking at the tests and hopefully we should have some results to post soon.

February 11th, 2005, 09:42 PM	#1
Joseph Lazare Tourist Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Kahnawake, QC Posts: 3	Sony HVR-Z1U Help! Hey everyone, my buddy just bought a sony hvr-z1u and we are trying to get the best film-look possible. Now, we first set the camera to cineframe 24 at 60i and while we are shooting, it seems just a bit choppy. Now, what do i do to smooth everything out when i capture. I keep hearing about something called "pull-down"? not sure what this means, so if anyone can help me i would greatly apreciate it. right now, we are using adobe premier pro. should i change some settings before i capture? Thanks a bunch.

February 13th, 2005, 02:28 AM	#3
Stefan Scherperel Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 209	Try shooting in cineframe 25. It will look much better and is easily converted to 24fps. __________________ Stefan Scherperel SSE Productions http://www.stefweb.net

February 18th, 2005, 07:02 PM	#4
Abel Jerrod Abel Cine Tech Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Burbank, CA Posts: 3	We (Abel CineTech/LA) are doing some testing on all of the cineframe modes on the Z1. We haven't finished yet, but so far we are not impressed with any of the cineframe modes (24cf, 25cf, or 30cf). All of them have the "choppy" motion you indicated. When we played back from the camera to a Panasonic 17" HD monitor (BT-H1700) it was not as obvious but still there. In the 50i mode (both with the 25cf mode and without) we seemed to have an issue with flickering on the monitor. Still looking at the tests and hopefully we should have some results to post soon. __________________ Jerrod DV Sales & Development Abel Cine Tech http://www.abelcine.com

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February 12th, 2005, 08:28 AM	#2
Mathieu Ghekiere Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,195	I don't have the cam, haven't even seen it, but I read on these boards it's cineframe 24 possibility indeed isn't so great. You could do a search on the boards of the HDV cam. You could always shoot in 60i and change the look of the framerate with software afterwards. (I think DVfilmmaker does this - I think that how it's called - or Magic Bullet. Don't know if Magic Bullet does it, but I believe so, it's a plug in for Premiere I believe) Good luck. BTW: 24P will never be as smooth as 60i. Probably you already know this, just wanted to check it.