Which tiffen soft/fx do I get?

Marco Leavitt · May 31st, 2005, 04:22 PM

I don't know what the most efficient process is, but using real filters is definitely funner. I used to use Schneider Black Frost filters with our GL1 (until some creep swiped it!), and really liked the look. It took off the edge without making the image look blurry and gave a nice flare to the highlights. They are difficult to use though -- you have to keep a very wide F-stop or the carbon dots in the glass come into focus.

Aaron Koolen · May 31st, 2005, 04:43 PM

Guy, absolutely great video! That's the sort of stuff I like to see before I buy something.

Cheers
Aaron

Anthony Cothron · June 27th, 2005, 01:13 PM

Hi guys. I'm new to the forum and this is my first post. I bought a Sony pd170 last summer and have done some shorts and commercials. But I do want to get a little more like film look to my next few projects. I have read what you said here on this thread, but I am still a bit confused on the the whole filter thing. Before I joined the forum I have purchased Tiffen Soft/FX 3, Pro-mist 1, and Black Pro-mist 2 filters. While I like the look they give me on a static shot, I don't like the "rippling" effect that you see when you pan or tilt. Of the filters I like the Pro-mist, so should I go to a Pro-mist 1/2 to get the same look without the ripple, or will it still be there? And if so, is there something else (besides in post)someone can suggest I do to get the look I want? Thanks. Please help out a new guy.

Guy Cochran · June 27th, 2005, 02:28 PM

If I understand you correctly, you're "seeing" the filter because you are shooting with a greater depth of field. If you're shooting at F2.0 or so for a shallow depth of field look, you will not "see the filter's glass."

If you're shooting and it's too bright to shoot at F2.0 try:

-Reducing light if possible
-Turning on your camera's built-in ND filter
-Screw on an ND Filter
-Increase your shutter speed
-Decrease gain (on Canon XL2 etc)

-G

Anthony Cothron · June 28th, 2005, 06:27 PM

Thanks Guy. I increased the iris setting and the shutter speed and that seemed to do the trick. Thanks again.

Eniola Akintoye · July 11th, 2006, 08:43 AM

Guy,
That tutorial was awesome.

Do you have other turorials you did for achieving film look and how do you wanna get such softness in post?

Guy Cochran · July 11th, 2006, 04:14 PM

Hi Eniola,

Thanks for the praise, it comments like yours that make us want to create more of these free tutorials.

We don't have any online tutorials as of yet, however we do lead live sessions at events on how to achieve a film look http://www.macworldexpo.com/live/20/...o/QMONYA04OXNG

Eniola Akintoye · July 12th, 2006, 03:35 AM

Thanks Guy. Holly Molly.
Everything is in CA?

I was looking for a way to soften my Sharp XL2 look and you nailed what I needed. I didn't want the trial and error in post.

Thanks mate.

May 31st, 2005, 04:43 PM	#17
Aaron Koolen Trustee Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 1,727	Guy, absolutely great video! That's the sort of stuff I like to see before I buy something. Cheers Aaron __________________ My Website Meat Free Media

June 27th, 2005, 02:28 PM	#19
Guy Cochran DVCreators.Net Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 892	If I understand you correctly, you're "seeing" the filter because you are shooting with a greater depth of field. If you're shooting at F2.0 or so for a shallow depth of field look, you will not "see the filter's glass." If you're shooting and it's too bright to shoot at F2.0 try: -Reducing light if possible -Turning on your camera's built-in ND filter -Screw on an ND Filter -Increase your shutter speed -Decrease gain (on Canon XL2 etc) -G __________________ Guy Cochran DVinfo Sponsor, Cool Gear - DVeStore!

July 11th, 2006, 04:14 PM	#22
Guy Cochran DVCreators.Net Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 892	Hi Eniola, Thanks for the praise, it comments like yours that make us want to create more of these free tutorials. We don't have any online tutorials as of yet, however we do lead live sessions at events on how to achieve a film look http://www.macworldexpo.com/live/20/...o/QMONYA04OXNG __________________ Guy Cochran DVinfo Sponsor, Cool Gear - DVeStore!

May 31st, 2005, 04:22 PM	#16
Marco Leavitt Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Albany, NY 12210 Posts: 2,652	I don't know what the most efficient process is, but using real filters is definitely funner. I used to use Schneider Black Frost filters with our GL1 (until some creep swiped it!), and really liked the look. It took off the edge without making the image look blurry and gave a nice flare to the highlights. They are difficult to use though -- you have to keep a very wide F-stop or the carbon dots in the glass come into focus.

June 27th, 2005, 01:13 PM	#18
Anthony Cothron New Boot Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 12	Hi guys. I'm new to the forum and this is my first post. I bought a Sony pd170 last summer and have done some shorts and commercials. But I do want to get a little more like film look to my next few projects. I have read what you said here on this thread, but I am still a bit confused on the the whole filter thing. Before I joined the forum I have purchased Tiffen Soft/FX 3, Pro-mist 1, and Black Pro-mist 2 filters. While I like the look they give me on a static shot, I don't like the "rippling" effect that you see when you pan or tilt. Of the filters I like the Pro-mist, so should I go to a Pro-mist 1/2 to get the same look without the ripple, or will it still be there? And if so, is there something else (besides in post)someone can suggest I do to get the look I want? Thanks. Please help out a new guy.

June 28th, 2005, 06:27 PM	#20
Anthony Cothron New Boot Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 12	Thanks Guy. I increased the iris setting and the shutter speed and that seemed to do the trick. Thanks again.

July 11th, 2006, 08:43 AM	#21
Eniola Akintoye Major Player Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Duluth GA Posts: 238	Guy, That tutorial was awesome. Do you have other turorials you did for achieving film look and how do you wanna get such softness in post?

July 12th, 2006, 03:35 AM	#23
Eniola Akintoye Major Player Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Duluth GA Posts: 238	Thanks Guy. Holly Molly. Everything is in CA? I was looking for a way to soften my Sharp XL2 look and you nailed what I needed. I didn't want the trial and error in post. Thanks mate.