Can 25fps DV be transcribed to film? at DVinfo.net

Aviv Hallale · April 17th, 2006, 03:19 PM

If I shot on a feature on PAL DV (25fps, which is closer to 24fps than NTSC) would any distributers accept it? Would it be possible to transcribe to film, or would it have to be shot in 24p to be considered?

Boyd Ostroff · April 17th, 2006, 04:12 PM

See numbers 17 and 30 on the FAQ here: http://www.dvfilm.com/faq.htm

Aviv Hallale · April 18th, 2006, 03:10 PM

Thanks Boyd,

In terms of a general filmish look though, is PAL far closer in being 25FPS than NTSC's 30?

For instance, using the VX2100 (Am able to get this VAT free, so it looks like it's the winner over the the FX1 debate :D) which as far as I know doesn't have a 24P (or progressive for that matter) mode, could I simply shoot in 25fps, deinterlace in post and adjust the gamma curve to give more of a film look (comparing the VX2100 to the DVX100 which has a cinegamma feature as well as 24P shooting mode)

For just the film aesthetic, does the extra frame in PAL video make that much of a difference?

Mathieu Ghekiere · April 18th, 2006, 03:26 PM

Hi Aviv,

you could shoot 50i on the VX, and deinterlace to 25p.

There is practically no difference between 24p and 25p, the human eye can't see the difference. '28 days later' was shot on xl1s pal models too, so.

Simon Antoniou · December 18th, 2006, 03:58 AM

If Im in PAL land using a PAL camera, what should I film in 24p or 25p?
does it matter?

Dylan Pank · December 21st, 2006, 05:29 AM

Simon,

with a PAL camera you wouldn't be able to shoot 24p. You would have to shoot 25p and then slow down 4% in post.

Simon Antoniou · December 21st, 2006, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylan Pank

Simon,

You would have to shoot 25p and then slow down 4% in post.

this is only if Im transfering to film right? not if im keeping video fro PAL TV.

thanks.

Dylan Pank · December 23rd, 2006, 12:53 PM

Ypu could slow down to 24 then speed up to 25 again for PAL, but there must be better ways to spend your time.

Ben Winter · December 23rd, 2006, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylan Pank

Ypu could slow down to 24 then speed up to 25 again for PAL, but there must be better ways to spend your time.

That's done a lot for a PAL transfer. Although I hear with dialogue it can get a bit icky.

April 17th, 2006, 03:19 PM	#1
Aviv Hallale Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 276	Can 25fps DV be transcribed to film? If I shot on a feature on PAL DV (25fps, which is closer to 24fps than NTSC) would any distributers accept it? Would it be possible to transcribe to film, or would it have to be shot in 24p to be considered?

April 18th, 2006, 03:26 PM	#4
Mathieu Ghekiere Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,195	Hi Aviv, you could shoot 50i on the VX, and deinterlace to 25p. There is practically no difference between 24p and 25p, the human eye can't see the difference. '28 days later' was shot on xl1s pal models too, so. __________________ http://productionsofthe3rdkind.com http://pr3k.com

April 17th, 2006, 04:12 PM	#2
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,787	See numbers 17 and 30 on the FAQ here: http://www.dvfilm.com/faq.htm

April 18th, 2006, 03:10 PM	#3
Aviv Hallale Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 276	Thanks Boyd, In terms of a general filmish look though, is PAL far closer in being 25FPS than NTSC's 30? For instance, using the VX2100 (Am able to get this VAT free, so it looks like it's the winner over the the FX1 debate :D) which as far as I know doesn't have a 24P (or progressive for that matter) mode, could I simply shoot in 25fps, deinterlace in post and adjust the gamma curve to give more of a film look (comparing the VX2100 to the DVX100 which has a cinegamma feature as well as 24P shooting mode) For just the film aesthetic, does the extra frame in PAL video make that much of a difference?

December 18th, 2006, 03:58 AM	#5
Simon Antoniou Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 73	If Im in PAL land using a PAL camera, what should I film in 24p or 25p? does it matter?

December 21st, 2006, 05:29 AM	#6
Dylan Pank Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Portsmouth, UK Posts: 611	Simon, with a PAL camera you wouldn't be able to shoot 24p. You would have to shoot 25p and then slow down 4% in post.

December 23rd, 2006, 12:53 PM	#8
Dylan Pank Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Portsmouth, UK Posts: 611	Ypu could slow down to 24 then speed up to 25 again for PAL, but there must be better ways to spend your time.