film look sample clip at DVinfo.net

John Jay · July 12th, 2006, 05:42 PM

I was curious how the HC1 faired when given a film look treatment,

here is a sample clip

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.ph...D6B9E34020B637

Graham Hickling · July 12th, 2006, 07:48 PM

Very smooth! Care to share the 'treatment' you applied?

Alex Thames · July 12th, 2006, 08:43 PM

It looks a little too soft to the point of not looking like HDV, but more like DV. I think the color correction was a bit overdone though (which makes it less filmlike imo). However, it's a good attempt.

Frank Howard · July 12th, 2006, 10:11 PM

Not bad for a first time out John!

If I might throw out a couple of quick suggestions... play with the angles of light so you don't get quite so much shadow on her face (unless you're shooting for a dark mysterious tone). The hat drops more shadow on the face and darkens her up.
Outdoor lighting can be a bit of a challenge to work with during midday. Overcast days give you softer lighting and the "magic hour" right after the sun goes down is also a lot easier to work with. The move "Days of Heaven" which made Almendros a legend was sshot almost exclusively during the magic hour.
But play withthe light until you get what YOU like.

Oh... most importantly... have FUN.

John Jay · July 13th, 2006, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham Hickling

Very smooth! Care to share the 'treatment' you applied?

the adaptive deinterlacing and conversion to 720p used Canopus Procoder

After Effects for the CC went like this

ICC Color Profile Converter>Levels>Curves - all tuned to taste

John Jay · July 13th, 2006, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Thames

It looks a little too soft to the point of not looking like HDV, but more like DV. I think the color correction was a bit overdone though (which makes it less filmlike imo). However, it's a good attempt.

Softness mainly due to the fact that its handheld with two ND8 filters fitted to bring the aperture to F1.8 for minimum DOF. Also the extreme CC tends to give a softness of its own - have you seen the movie Man on Fire?

John Jay · July 13th, 2006, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Howard

Not bad for a first time out John!

If I might throw out a couple of quick suggestions... play with the angles of light so you don't get quite so much shadow on her face (unless you're shooting for a dark mysterious tone). The hat drops more shadow on the face and darkens her up.
Outdoor lighting can be a bit of a challenge to work with during midday. Overcast days give you softer lighting and the "magic hour" right after the sun goes down is also a lot easier to work with. The move "Days of Heaven" which made Almendros a legend was sshot almost exclusively during the magic hour.
But play withthe light until you get what YOU like.

Oh... most importantly... have FUN.

yes first time treating the HC1 :)

It was an opportunist shot by the side of the Thames around 6pm, just happened to have the HC1 in my bag. No foam core, no HMI - he he

The brolly was holding the low sun off - only wished it had been a white linen parasol - but you got to accept what Serendipity deals out.

Frank Howard · July 13th, 2006, 09:36 AM

Ahhhhh... I thought you might be using that umbrella for diffusion and maybe prevention of overblown backlighting...

:)

Alex Thames · July 13th, 2006, 12:40 PM

John, I have seen that movie, but I saw it on DVD on my small TV a long time ago, so I don't remember how it looked.

But, anyways, it's definitely better than straight video, but it's just my opinion that it's too soft. I'm not sure the minimum DOF was the best move either because a lot of times everything just seemed out of focus a bit, I don't know. However, that said, softness is better than extreme sharpness.

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July 12th, 2006, 07:48 PM	#2
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	Very smooth! Care to share the 'treatment' you applied?

July 12th, 2006, 08:43 PM	#3
Alex Thames Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New York Posts: 508	It looks a little too soft to the point of not looking like HDV, but more like DV. I think the color correction was a bit overdone though (which makes it less filmlike imo). However, it's a good attempt.

July 12th, 2006, 10:11 PM	#4
Frank Howard Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 157	Not bad for a first time out John! If I might throw out a couple of quick suggestions... play with the angles of light so you don't get quite so much shadow on her face (unless you're shooting for a dark mysterious tone). The hat drops more shadow on the face and darkens her up. Outdoor lighting can be a bit of a challenge to work with during midday. Overcast days give you softer lighting and the "magic hour" right after the sun goes down is also a lot easier to work with. The move "Days of Heaven" which made Almendros a legend was sshot almost exclusively during the magic hour. But play withthe light until you get what YOU like. Oh... most importantly... have FUN.

July 13th, 2006, 09:36 AM	#8
Frank Howard Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 157	Ahhhhh... I thought you might be using that umbrella for diffusion and maybe prevention of overblown backlighting... :)

July 13th, 2006, 12:40 PM	#9
Alex Thames Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New York Posts: 508	John, I have seen that movie, but I saw it on DVD on my small TV a long time ago, so I don't remember how it looked. But, anyways, it's definitely better than straight video, but it's just my opinion that it's too soft. I'm not sure the minimum DOF was the best move either because a lot of times everything just seemed out of focus a bit, I don't know. However, that said, softness is better than extreme sharpness.