Anyone has Scanned or Telicined Super 16? at DVinfo.net

Patomakarn Nitanontawat · December 11th, 2006, 10:43 AM

Dear Sir,
Does anyone have a scanned or telecined footage shot from Super 16? I have never 16mm film footage, and with great curiosity to what it looks like. Thank you,
Patomakarn Nitanontawat

Wade Spencer · December 11th, 2006, 11:32 AM

Shot with a Cinema Products GSMO 16mm camera with a CP Ultra T 1.25 lens on Kodak's Vision 2 500T 7218 film. The film was transferred at Postworks NY.

http://www.extremesoundonline.com/vi...ghtwindweb.wmv

Charles Papert · December 13th, 2006, 01:05 AM

There are a number of TV series shot on Super 16 which can be seen every week--off the top of my head, "Scrubs" and "Gilmore Girls" come to mind.

Nate Weaver · December 13th, 2006, 01:13 AM

And Veronica Mars, of which I am a new rabid fan.

...shot on Panavision Elaines, which is a little quirky.

Charles Papert · December 13th, 2006, 01:20 AM

Rabid, eh Nate? We might have to take you back behind the toolshed and shoot you.

I did the Jay Mohr series "Action" on the Elaine--let's just say it's an interesting camera. Not much of a reason to use them any more. Sexy in their day, though.

Joe Allen Rosenberger · December 13th, 2006, 02:59 PM

FX Network...."The Shield" shoots in super16, SR2's I believe. Personally, I love the way this series is shot. Lot's of handheld and steadicam shooting.

Paul Jefferies · December 13th, 2006, 05:42 PM

"Leaving Las Vegas" was shot on super 16mm, and Robert Rodriguez's first film "El Mariachi" was shot on standard 16mm

Alessandro Machi · January 3rd, 2007, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Charles Papert

Rabid, eh Nate? We might have to take you back behind the toolshed and shoot you.

I don't quite understand why vanquishing film gives some glee.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Papert

I did the Jay Mohr series "Action" on the Elaine--let's just say it's an interesting camera. Not much of a reason to use them any more. Sexy in their day, though.

I don't understand this, are you saying there are other better Super-16mm cameras?

David Tamés · January 3rd, 2007, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Alessandro Machi

[...] I don't understand this, are you saying there are other better Super-16mm cameras?

The Panavisions are large and cumbersome, not "better" but for anyone who likes to shoot handheld, the Aaton Super 16 cameras are a joy to shoot with. I've shot many films with them and I still miss their size and balance.

As for examples of Super 16 delights, some that come to mind are PARTY GIRL, PARROTS OF TELEGRAPH HILL, MARCH OF THE PENGUINS, LITHIVM, MONSOON WEDDING, GET ON THE BUS... (parrots might have been regular 16 though)

Charles Papert · January 3rd, 2007, 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alessandro Machi

I don't quite understand why vanquishing film gives some glee.

And it turn, I don't quite understand what this statement has to do with the one of mine that it seems this is commenting on...?

As far as the Elaine goes, I was pretty much saying that yes, there are better choices. The best argument for using the Elaine is that you can use Panavision acccessories; however against that as David says is the fact that this system is quite heavy, as well as viewing optics that deliver a much smaller and darker image than either the Arris or Aatons. In addition, the 16mm Panavision lenses are a bit long in the tooth at this point (if I remember, the zooms were Panavised Canon video lenses), I don't know if they have been updated over the years in the way that the Primos are.

I haven't had the opportunity to shoot with the Arri 416 yet but I've played with it a little and it seems to offer some great features and a nice shooting package. Ergonmically it's definitely an improvement over the SR series. And again as David points out, the Aatons have always been about great handheld ergonomics. A bit underdeveloped compared to the Arris in studio configuration, but certainly workable.

David Tamés · January 3rd, 2007, 07:39 AM

Oh, and by the way, this:

http://www.pointzeropictures.com/fil...hd-and-s16.htm

includes a partial list of films and television shows originated on Super 16.

Alessandro Machi · January 13th, 2007, 08:05 AM

Apparently a bunch of newer shows not yet out are being shot in Super-16.

Adam Berman · January 14th, 2007, 01:34 PM

All shot with an Arri SR2 S-16.

http://www.bermanfilms.com/demo/berman_2006_demo.mov

Chris Ruiz · January 25th, 2007, 01:34 PM

I have shot in Super-16 and telecined down to mini-DV with Fotokem doing the developing and Magic Film Works (both in Burbank) doing the telecine down to mini-DV. All was beautiful, I just wish I had enough for an HD transfer.

December 11th, 2006, 10:43 AM	#1
Patomakarn Nitanontawat Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 97	Anyone has Scanned or Telicined Super 16? Dear Sir, Does anyone have a scanned or telecined footage shot from Super 16? I have never 16mm film footage, and with great curiosity to what it looks like. Thank you, Patomakarn Nitanontawat __________________ In Vino Veritas

December 13th, 2006, 01:05 AM	#3
Charles Papert Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,810	There are a number of TV series shot on Super 16 which can be seen every week--off the top of my head, "Scrubs" and "Gilmore Girls" come to mind. __________________ Charles Papert www.charlespapert.com

December 13th, 2006, 01:13 AM	#4
Nate Weaver Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 2,100	And Veronica Mars, of which I am a new rabid fan. ...shot on Panavision Elaines, which is a little quirky. __________________ My Work: nateweaver.net

December 13th, 2006, 01:20 AM	#5
Charles Papert Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,810	Rabid, eh Nate? We might have to take you back behind the toolshed and shoot you. I did the Jay Mohr series "Action" on the Elaine--let's just say it's an interesting camera. Not much of a reason to use them any more. Sexy in their day, though. __________________ Charles Papert www.charlespapert.com

January 3rd, 2007, 07:39 AM	#11
David Tamés Kino-Eye Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 457	Oh, and by the way, this: http://www.pointzeropictures.com/fil...hd-and-s16.htm includes a partial list of films and television shows originated on Super 16. __________________ David Tames { blog: http://Kino-Eye.com twitter: @cinemakinoeye }

December 11th, 2006, 11:32 AM	#2
Wade Spencer Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Wellsboro, Pa Posts: 285	Shot with a Cinema Products GSMO 16mm camera with a CP Ultra T 1.25 lens on Kodak's Vision 2 500T 7218 film. The film was transferred at Postworks NY. http://www.extremesoundonline.com/vi...ghtwindweb.wmv

December 13th, 2006, 02:59 PM	#6
Joe Allen Rosenberger Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: USA Posts: 419	FX Network...."The Shield" shoots in super16, SR2's I believe. Personally, I love the way this series is shot. Lot's of handheld and steadicam shooting.

December 13th, 2006, 05:42 PM	#7
Paul Jefferies Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Croydon, England Posts: 277	"Leaving Las Vegas" was shot on super 16mm, and Robert Rodriguez's first film "El Mariachi" was shot on standard 16mm

January 13th, 2007, 08:05 AM	#12
Alessandro Machi Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Los Angeles, Ca USA Posts: 553	Apparently a bunch of newer shows not yet out are being shot in Super-16. __________________ https://alexlogic.blogspot.com/ Los Angeles Emmy Winner (yes, used a video edit controller and loved doing so.)

January 14th, 2007, 01:34 PM	#13
Adam Berman New Boot Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 6	Examples of stuff originated on Super-16mm All shot with an Arri SR2 S-16. http://www.bermanfilms.com/demo/berman_2006_demo.mov Last edited by Adam Berman; January 14th, 2007 at 11:58 PM.

January 25th, 2007, 01:34 PM	#14
Chris Ruiz Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Moreno Valley, CA Posts: 29	I have shot in Super-16 and telecined down to mini-DV with Fotokem doing the developing and Magic Film Works (both in Burbank) doing the telecine down to mini-DV. All was beautiful, I just wish I had enough for an HD transfer.