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Old January 30th, 2006, 10:16 AM   #16
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Thanks,

I'll probably go with just the Canon 1.6X and see how it goes - this will give me more reach than I have now. Realistically this is probably as much length as I can use without problems.

Before switching to video I used a Nikon 1000mm F11 mirror lens with various Nikon 35mm bodies. This was the size of a waste-paper basket and weighed about 7 lbs. You had to hunt for the camera body on the back of that beast!

You are right about addiction to long lenses, but you soon enter a region of diminishing returns. Ironically landscape photographers feel just the same, wanting to be always a litte wider.

Many thanks for your help!
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Old February 23rd, 2006, 10:15 AM   #17
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Xl2 Plus Ef Adapter And 70-210 F2.8

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My experience is identical to Laurri, in that I used the 70-210 on the XL2 and could not say that it was much different from the 20x standard lens footage when I got down to editing it. My impression is that the 20x standard is higher contrast if anything. My most used combination is the 135-400 Sigma on a standard Canon EF adapter - amazing quality for the price. I am however interested in the comments about the use of an old 300mm FD Prime lens by BOB THOMPSON, which fits without a standard Canon adapter. Can he supply some further information please, e.g where he got it and how much.

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Old February 23rd, 2006, 12:14 PM   #18
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Hi Rod;
I use a 50 300 FD L lens consistently on an XL1 and the XL H1 with good results. Optex used to make an adapter for the FD lenses, however they have recently gone out of business. ZGC handled ther equipoment and may have an adapter in stock. Contact chris@zgc.com for more info.
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Old February 23rd, 2006, 12:29 PM   #19
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Have done, are they in the UK or USA do you know. What's the difference between the EF and FD in terms of quality. I know the former has more glass but that's just to correct the exit pupil size and disposition - seems unnecessary if a spacer adapter does the job.

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Old February 23rd, 2006, 12:41 PM   #20
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The EF lenses use an adapter that contains glass, in my opinion, glass of a lower quality. The Canon FD and the Nikon lenses do not use an adapter with glass because of the method of adjusting aperture.Therefore, again in my opinion, the older FD lenses are comparable to the EF lenses on the XL cameras.
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Old February 23rd, 2006, 02:11 PM   #21
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Rodney,

In the uk you need to speak with this company http://lesbosher.co.uk/ .They make various adapters and are recognised by Canon and JVC amongst others.

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Old February 23rd, 2006, 02:37 PM   #22
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Hi Rodney,

I have also found this one, a former Optex employee who has started up on his own after its collapse. He was responsible for the lens developments for 17 years with them. He is also producing adapters http://www.mtfservices.com/page3/page3.html
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Old February 23rd, 2006, 03:22 PM   #23
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The lenses that have an aperture ring on the actual lens barrel (Canon FD & Nikkor Ais) are the best lenses to use, because then you have full manual control of the iris.

Rodney, I would also advise that you use a quality prime SLR lens alone, rather than adding the 1.6 extender to the Canon 20X lens. A zoom will help you to fix focus easier, but I would go for a fixed prime lens, especially if most of your work is on a tripod from a hide. A 200mm f/2.8, 300mm f2.8, or 500mm f/4, or 600mm f/4 would be best. To cut down in weight and size, choose a 200mm f/4, 300mm f/4 or 600mm f/5.6.
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Old February 23rd, 2006, 06:28 PM   #24
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Thanks Tony

Yes, I more or less decided to upgrade to a prime from the excellent, but slow Sigma Zoom. I've got some fab Nikkors, but only one is in the frame, which is a 180 f2.8. The stuff I got using the 135-400 at about f11 in bright light was excellent - but not so good wide open. Stills on: www.xyris.tv/%20%20%20pages/diary.htm This lens is fitted using the standard EF adapter. I might well get a new Canon 400 f4 which will serve on my stills camera as well. My main query was about the glass versus the glassless adapters.

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