Monitors & Video Editing

Dale Stoltzfus · August 3rd, 2007, 02:47 PM

I'm getting my editing studio up and running and I have a big question - what would you recommend for monitors. I'll be mostly editing promotional videos but I'll also be doing some graphic design and layout. Should I use two LCDs for editing and a broadcast monitor for color-correction? If so, what monitors (LCD and/or broadcast) would you recommend? Keep in mind that the LCDs need to be fairly accurate because of the graphics work. Should I consider CRT in stead of LCD? If a broadcast monitor is needed, how do I connect it? My graphics card is a Quadro FX 3450.

Huge thanks for your help,

Dale

Glenn Chan · August 4th, 2007, 01:12 PM

For video work, it doesn't matter too much what you use for your computer monitors. But I would prefer LCDs since they don't interfere with each other and tend to have smaller bezels.

For SD work, you can preview material your monitor through a firewire device (e.g. DV camera) or a video input/output card by Aja, Blackmagic, etc. etc. A SD CRT would be worth getting... JVC, Ikegami, Sony, Panasonic are some manufacturers that make em. (Sony and Panasonic may not make CRT broadcast monitors anymore.)

If your Quadro has a SDI output that could go into your monitor (but your monitor needs a SDI input card). The FX4500 I think has it, but the other models don't?

2- For graphic design work, you probably want to use solutions designed for that... e.g. color probes like the Monaco Optix.

Some other info...
http://www.outbackphoto.com/tforum/v...p?TopicID=1700

I don't know too much about prepress... never played around with it much.

Dale Stoltzfus · August 4th, 2007, 01:40 PM

Thanks a lot, Glenn. Yes, my card does have DVI out put - two of 'em. Should I use the single link output or the dual link output to go to the broadcast monitor? I found this monitor on B&H - it allows DVI input with a separate card (F-CO1COMG), but I can't seem to find the card. Any suggestions?

Also, does Premiere Pro 2.0 have any problems sending preview out through DVI?

Andrew Kimery · August 4th, 2007, 04:19 PM

Dale, "SDI" and "DVI" aren't the same thing. Also, are you going to working w/HD too or just SD?

-A

Dale Stoltzfus · August 4th, 2007, 07:55 PM

Ah! My mistake. I knew that, but somehow my brain read DVI when it said SDI. I'm working only in SD.

Thanks,

Dale

Dale Stoltzfus · August 6th, 2007, 08:39 AM

So now I have another question: how expensive should I be looking at? The $600-$700 seem attractive, but will they be good enough? Also, is composite connection sufficient - in my experience, composite connection is to be avoided because of it's low quality. Oh, and I'm still really confused about how to connect the monitor to the computer. I'm assuming a firewire out to the Canopus ADVC110 and composite (if composite is the way to go) from the Canopus to the monitor would be the best way?

Thanks,

Dale

Glenn Chan · August 6th, 2007, 02:26 PM

IMO using the composite connection can be useful in certain situations.

With the composite connection, the luma and the chroma signals are modulated together. The luma roughly carries the black and white information, while chroma carries color. Sometimes you get artifacts where the luma signal bleeds into the chroma or vice versa. You see this as those funky moire rainbows or hanging/crawling dots. If you use the composite connection, you can check to see if your signal is picking that up.

You can set the composite decoder to tradeoff between sharpness and lack of these artifacts. I would opt to show a sharper signal.

2- If you use the S-video output on your Canopus you'd avoid this. S-video carries luma and chroma separately, so the signals don't bleed into each other.

August 3rd, 2007, 02:47 PM	#1
Dale Stoltzfus Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ephrata, PA United States Posts: 257	Monitors & Video Editing - Help Needed I'm getting my editing studio up and running and I have a big question - what would you recommend for monitors. I'll be mostly editing promotional videos but I'll also be doing some graphic design and layout. Should I use two LCDs for editing and a broadcast monitor for color-correction? If so, what monitors (LCD and/or broadcast) would you recommend? Keep in mind that the LCDs need to be fairly accurate because of the graphics work. Should I consider CRT in stead of LCD? If a broadcast monitor is needed, how do I connect it? My graphics card is a Quadro FX 3450. Huge thanks for your help, Dale

August 6th, 2007, 08:39 AM	#6
Dale Stoltzfus Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ephrata, PA United States Posts: 257	So now I have another question: how expensive should I be looking at? The $600-$700 seem attractive, but will they be good enough? Also, is composite connection sufficient - in my experience, composite connection is to be avoided because of it's low quality. Oh, and I'm still really confused about how to connect the monitor to the computer. I'm assuming a firewire out to the Canopus ADVC110 and composite (if composite is the way to go) from the Canopus to the monitor would be the best way? Thanks, Dale Last edited by Dale Stoltzfus; August 6th, 2007 at 09:10 AM.

August 4th, 2007, 01:12 PM	#2
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	For video work, it doesn't matter too much what you use for your computer monitors. But I would prefer LCDs since they don't interfere with each other and tend to have smaller bezels. For SD work, you can preview material your monitor through a firewire device (e.g. DV camera) or a video input/output card by Aja, Blackmagic, etc. etc. A SD CRT would be worth getting... JVC, Ikegami, Sony, Panasonic are some manufacturers that make em. (Sony and Panasonic may not make CRT broadcast monitors anymore.) If your Quadro has a SDI output that could go into your monitor (but your monitor needs a SDI input card). The FX4500 I think has it, but the other models don't? 2- For graphic design work, you probably want to use solutions designed for that... e.g. color probes like the Monaco Optix. Some other info... http://www.outbackphoto.com/tforum/v...p?TopicID=1700 I don't know too much about prepress... never played around with it much.

August 4th, 2007, 01:40 PM	#3
Dale Stoltzfus Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ephrata, PA United States Posts: 257	Thanks a lot, Glenn. Yes, my card does have DVI out put - two of 'em. Should I use the single link output or the dual link output to go to the broadcast monitor? I found this monitor on B&H - it allows DVI input with a separate card (F-CO1COMG), but I can't seem to find the card. Any suggestions? Also, does Premiere Pro 2.0 have any problems sending preview out through DVI?

August 4th, 2007, 04:19 PM	#4
Andrew Kimery Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 352	Dale, "SDI" and "DVI" aren't the same thing. Also, are you going to working w/HD too or just SD? -A

August 4th, 2007, 07:55 PM	#5
Dale Stoltzfus Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ephrata, PA United States Posts: 257	Ah! My mistake. I knew that, but somehow my brain read DVI when it said SDI. I'm working only in SD. Thanks, Dale

August 6th, 2007, 02:26 PM	#7
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	IMO using the composite connection can be useful in certain situations. With the composite connection, the luma and the chroma signals are modulated together. The luma roughly carries the black and white information, while chroma carries color. Sometimes you get artifacts where the luma signal bleeds into the chroma or vice versa. You see this as those funky moire rainbows or hanging/crawling dots. If you use the composite connection, you can check to see if your signal is picking that up. You can set the composite decoder to tradeoff between sharpness and lack of these artifacts. I would opt to show a sharper signal. 2- If you use the S-video output on your Canopus you'd avoid this. S-video carries luma and chroma separately, so the signals don't bleed into each other.