HD monitor for you at $775 at DVinfo.net

Steve Mullen · June 11th, 2003, 01:03 AM

Walmart will have an HDTV under $1000.

And this from hdmuse@hdtvetc.com:

As a firm believer in the doctrine of "the mostest for the leastest", I can relate. Remember the old Unity Motion/Princeton widescreen HD monitor? You know, the one "designed by Joe Kane", 720p capable, etc? Sold as recently as a year ago for $4100 at list until Princeton ran out of stock.

Well, Monivision, the original OEM, has reintroduced this model in all its computer compatible glory as the DM-6552SW. Recently selling on the Net for ~ $1500, you can pick this puppy up new now from the sponsors of the AVS Forum on special for $775! Call 585-454-1460 and tell 'em the HD Muse sent ya...

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=255917&highlight=Monivision

THIS IS A GREAT MONITOR!!!!

Speaking of Joe Kane, word is that his long delayed and highly anticipated 1080p24fps mastered Digital Video Essentials calibration videos will finally become available for purchase next month. Both 1080i and 720p D-VHS tape versions will be available.

HERE'S YOUR HD CALIBRATION TAPE!!!

Firewire also figures into another recent announcement of great importance to the HDTV community. 169Time got its start by adding firewire ports to the RCA DTC-100 STB for OTA HDTV recording and later added the AVX-1 box for massaging satellite HD programming into a format recordable to D-VHS.

>>> Of course, don't buy any HD now because the Japanese are working UDTV! :) :)
_
Compared with normal TV or even HDTV, a viewer would get a heightened sensation of reality from the ultrahigh-definition video system under development at STRL. Its large, wide-view screen has a resolution equivalent to that of gravure printing. Over the last year, enhancements were made to all of the early prototype's imaging, recording, display, and audio systems. To assess the effects of the large, wide-view screen, we produced programs mainly composed of motion pictures.

Features
- Standard Specification: The video format of the 4,000 scanning line system has four times the number of pixels of the Hi-Vision (HDTV) standard, both vertically and horizontally, and uses progressive scanning.

- Imaging system: To pickup images suited for a wide-view/large-screen display more efficiently, we are developing a compact camera that uses 2 G + 1R + 1 B chips.

- Recording system: A new recording device that employs parallel HDTV hard disks was fabricated, expanding the recording/playback time to 18 minutes, from the previous 34 seconds.

- Display system: Automated data acquisition realized highly accurate geometric compensation for the DUAL projectors.

- Audio system: In an attempt to create new sound effects, additional loudspeaker arrays were installed at either side of the screen in order to control the perceived distance of sounds.

Future Work
Psychological effects, such as the sensation of reality perceived from ultrahigh-definition/wide-screen images and three-dimensional sound, will be examined quantitatively, and the results will be used as basic data for future broadcasting endeavors aimed at delivering an unparalleled level of realism to viewers.

Peter Moore · June 11th, 2003, 08:08 AM

UDTV might be good for Hollywood cinema but I doubt any consumer would ever know the difference between 1080p and 4000p. Star Wars II was 1080p and shown on a gigantic projector and I couldn't tell it wasn't the same rez. as film.

Bill Ravens · June 11th, 2003, 12:20 PM

not to mention the cost!!??

Betsy Moore · June 11th, 2003, 01:12 PM

r·?t-4aw Episode II, I thought I needed glasses for two hours. It may pass for film but really, really soft focus film.

I'm sure everyone will be happy with 1080 tv sets for years to come but I can't see us sticking with it forever and ever. The resolution is not unlimited on those things, I've watched football games and documentaries on them and found myself wishing for more detail in the long shots.

Personally, I think it would be fantastic if ultra high definition was common in 15 or twenty years.

Imran Zaidi · June 11th, 2003, 02:01 PM

In 15 or 20 years we'd better be watching holo-vision.

Paul Mogg · June 13th, 2003, 03:52 PM

Steve, this looks like a great monitor, however I noticed that it's max resolution is actually 1024*768. So I assume it downconverts a bit horizontally to display a 1280*720 (720p picture). Is this correct? Also, would I be able to display a 1280*720 picture on this screen if it is connected to my PC via VGA connector? I'm thinking of playing back MPEG2TS footage from the JVC HD cam directly using the VLAN or Elecard player.

Thanks for your advice

Steve Mullen · June 13th, 2003, 04:23 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Paul Mogg : Steve, this looks like a great monitor, however I noticed that it's max resolution is actually 1024*768. So I assume it downconverts a bit horizontally to display a 1280*720 (720p picture). Is this correct? Also, would I be able to display a 1280*720 picture on this screen if it is connected to my PC via VGA connector? I'm thinking of playing back MPEG2TS footage from the JVC HD cam directly using the VLAN or Elecard player.

Thanks for your advice -->>>

It is an RGB computer monitor that when fed from a computer acts as an XGA monitor. Thus your computer will down-rez slightly when you set VLAN/Elecard to "full screen."

When you input component from the HD10, the monitor will convert to fill its screen. I don't remember if the monitor sync increases to meet 1280x720 -- or if the input is down-rezed to 1024x768.

Doesn't really matter because the upper viewable limit of all but the most expensive (>$10000) monitors is about 900-lines.

That's why the measured HD10 rez is greater than can be displayed.

More importantly color and gamma are great. Anyone considering HD work should get one of these.

Phil Orlando · August 5th, 2006, 01:52 PM

I need a monitor to check the color with a HD100, would you say I could use that monitor?
Thanks
Phil

Boyd Ostroff · August 5th, 2006, 10:54 PM

Welcome to DVinfo Phil!

If you take a closer look at this thread, you'll see that you're responding to a post which is over 3 years old (June 2003). The whole HD landscape has changed a lot during that period, so this might not be the way to go anymore...

Phil Orlando · August 6th, 2006, 05:08 AM

yes, sorry about that and I actually found fresher threads.

June 11th, 2003, 01:03 AM	#1
Steve Mullen HDV Cinema Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,007	720p HD monitor for you at $775 Walmart will have an HDTV under $1000. And this from hdmuse@hdtvetc.com: As a firm believer in the doctrine of "the mostest for the leastest", I can relate. Remember the old Unity Motion/Princeton widescreen HD monitor? You know, the one "designed by Joe Kane", 720p capable, etc? Sold as recently as a year ago for $4100 at list until Princeton ran out of stock. Well, Monivision, the original OEM, has reintroduced this model in all its computer compatible glory as the DM-6552SW. Recently selling on the Net for ~ $1500, you can pick this puppy up new now from the sponsors of the AVS Forum on special for $775! Call 585-454-1460 and tell 'em the HD Muse sent ya... http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=255917&highlight=Monivision THIS IS A GREAT MONITOR!!!! Speaking of Joe Kane, word is that his long delayed and highly anticipated 1080p24fps mastered Digital Video Essentials calibration videos will finally become available for purchase next month. Both 1080i and 720p D-VHS tape versions will be available. HERE'S YOUR HD CALIBRATION TAPE!!! Firewire also figures into another recent announcement of great importance to the HDTV community. 169Time got its start by adding firewire ports to the RCA DTC-100 STB for OTA HDTV recording and later added the AVX-1 box for massaging satellite HD programming into a format recordable to D-VHS. >>> Of course, don't buy any HD now because the Japanese are working UDTV! :) :) _ Compared with normal TV or even HDTV, a viewer would get a heightened sensation of reality from the ultrahigh-definition video system under development at STRL. Its large, wide-view screen has a resolution equivalent to that of gravure printing. Over the last year, enhancements were made to all of the early prototype's imaging, recording, display, and audio systems. To assess the effects of the large, wide-view screen, we produced programs mainly composed of motion pictures. Features - Standard Specification: The video format of the 4,000 scanning line system has four times the number of pixels of the Hi-Vision (HDTV) standard, both vertically and horizontally, and uses progressive scanning. - Imaging system: To pickup images suited for a wide-view/large-screen display more efficiently, we are developing a compact camera that uses 2 G + 1R + 1 B chips. - Recording system: A new recording device that employs parallel HDTV hard disks was fabricated, expanding the recording/playback time to 18 minutes, from the previous 34 seconds. - Display system: Automated data acquisition realized highly accurate geometric compensation for the DUAL projectors. - Audio system: In an attempt to create new sound effects, additional loudspeaker arrays were installed at either side of the screen in order to control the perceived distance of sounds. Future Work Psychological effects, such as the sensation of reality perceived from ultrahigh-definition/wide-screen images and three-dimensional sound, will be examined quantitatively, and the results will be used as basic data for future broadcasting endeavors aimed at delivering an unparalleled level of realism to viewers. __________________ Switcher's Quick Guide to the Avid Media Composer >>> http://home.mindspring.com/~d-v-c

June 13th, 2003, 03:52 PM	#6
Paul Mogg Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Francisco CA Posts: 386	Steve, this looks like a great monitor, however I noticed that it's max resolution is actually 1024768. So I assume it downconverts a bit horizontally to display a 1280720 (720p picture). Is this correct? Also, would I be able to display a 1280*720 picture on this screen if it is connected to my PC via VGA connector? I'm thinking of playing back MPEG2TS footage from the JVC HD cam directly using the VLAN or Elecard player. Thanks for your advice __________________ Paul

June 13th, 2003, 04:23 PM	#7
Steve Mullen HDV Cinema Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,007	<<<-- Originally posted by Paul Mogg : Steve, this looks like a great monitor, however I noticed that it's max resolution is actually 1024768. So I assume it downconverts a bit horizontally to display a 1280720 (720p picture). Is this correct? Also, would I be able to display a 1280*720 picture on this screen if it is connected to my PC via VGA connector? I'm thinking of playing back MPEG2TS footage from the JVC HD cam directly using the VLAN or Elecard player. Thanks for your advice -->>> It is an RGB computer monitor that when fed from a computer acts as an XGA monitor. Thus your computer will down-rez slightly when you set VLAN/Elecard to "full screen." When you input component from the HD10, the monitor will convert to fill its screen. I don't remember if the monitor sync increases to meet 1280x720 -- or if the input is down-rezed to 1024x768. Doesn't really matter because the upper viewable limit of all but the most expensive (>$10000) monitors is about 900-lines. That's why the measured HD10 rez is greater than can be displayed. More importantly color and gamma are great. Anyone considering HD work should get one of these. __________________ Switcher's Quick Guide to the Avid Media Composer >>> http://home.mindspring.com/~d-v-c

August 5th, 2006, 01:52 PM	#8
Phil Orlando New Boot Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Francisco Posts: 9	Can I use it as a field monitor with the HD 100 I need a monitor to check the color with a HD100, would you say I could use that monitor? Thanks Phil

August 6th, 2006, 05:08 AM	#10
Phil Orlando New Boot Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Francisco Posts: 9	oops yes, sorry about that and I actually found fresher threads.

June 11th, 2003, 08:08 AM	#2
Peter Moore Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Arlington VA Posts: 1,034	UDTV might be good for Hollywood cinema but I doubt any consumer would ever know the difference between 1080p and 4000p. Star Wars II was 1080p and shown on a gigantic projector and I couldn't tell it wasn't the same rez. as film.

June 11th, 2003, 12:20 PM	#3
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	not to mention the cost!!??

June 11th, 2003, 01:12 PM	#4
Betsy Moore Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 444	r·?t-4aw Episode II, I thought I needed glasses for two hours. It may pass for film but really, really soft focus film. I'm sure everyone will be happy with 1080 tv sets for years to come but I can't see us sticking with it forever and ever. The resolution is not unlimited on those things, I've watched football games and documentaries on them and found myself wishing for more detail in the long shots. Personally, I think it would be fantastic if ultra high definition was common in 15 or twenty years.

June 11th, 2003, 02:01 PM	#5
Imran Zaidi Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,315	In 15 or 20 years we'd better be watching holo-vision.

August 5th, 2006, 10:54 PM	#9
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,787	Welcome to DVinfo Phil! If you take a closer look at this thread, you'll see that you're responding to a post which is over 3 years old (June 2003). The whole HD landscape has changed a lot during that period, so this might not be the way to go anymore...