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Does anybody have an easy mounting solution yet? I'd like to put it on my rig with something like this: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...Ball_Head.html

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I coincidentally stumbled upon this monitor at Circuit City and bought it the same day this thread started up. I'd been looking at LGs but got this because of the brightness and controls all on the front below the LCD panel.

Does anybody have an easy mounting solution yet? I'd like to mount it to my rig with something like this: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...Ball_Head.html

I just don't know how to mount the monitor to that, other than just JB welding a bolt to it. Any suggestions?

Sorry for the double post. Anybody know how to delete that last one?

For at least an hour or two, something posted by an individual will be able to edit a original post. Just click the "edit" button instead of adding another post.

Yeah, I didn't realize it had posted. I hit enter to skip a line and my page did something weird like it reloaded (and obviously posted), but left me on the same message screen I was working on. Anyway, know of a way to delete it? The edit button says edit/delete on mouseover, but I don't see the option anywhere.

Speaking of specs/info, I'd only try to check manufacturers sites. These stores, CCity, BestBuy, etc etc., hardly ever have correct specs or info. Ex: On Circuit City's site, it lists specs for the other colors available (other than black) for the FX820 don't have speakers & to hear audio you have to use headphones or hook up to an audio system. Also, I noticed at least one listed as having component out & no composite out and also at least one as being progressive.

Dweebs :)

Marty, which model are you talking about? On the BestBuy site, I see two LG models:

The LG DP889 8" is listed with a WVGA (800x480) screen but no video inputs. Its Zoom selector feature looks interesting. What do you think?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....#productdetail

The LG DP885 is listed with a WQVGA (480x234) screen and includes a video input. You probably don't have this one judging by the resolution.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1200702389704

Other low cost options are smaller LCD TVs, although they aren't as portable and have no battery power. Has anyone seen a smaller unit? The Sony store has a thin but very expensive OLED TV.

Insignia® - 15" 720p Widescreen Flat-Panel LCD

Here is another avenue to explore: battery powered LCd TVs, although this particular unit has neither the resolution not the component video inputs we're looking for:

http://www.lcddigital.tv/6-tv.html

I've shot with this unit before:

http://www.lcd4video.com/lcd4video_s...d_monitor.html

The director for my last shoot had one of the $200.00 combo pack. I does have a 12 volt battery brick in a bag you can shoulder carry during hand held, and I would have used it, except that we had someone let us use his Nebtek monitor at last moment.

I checked out the Best Buy selection of DVD player models, looking for these:
The LG DP889 8" (WVGA , 800x480 but no video inputs?)
The LG DP885 (WQVGA 480x234 + a video input

The Best Buy setup was great in that they had demo disks, although you have to open all of the units to find the same ones. Although the prices didn't vary that much, there was a huge difference in quality. The Sony FX820 wasn't there, but the FX810 looked about the same. The Toshiba 9" looked fuzzy, pretty much every unit looked fuzzy with obvious jaggies and "interlace" line artifacts. The only decent one in clarity and contrast was the Insignia 10.2" although its color depth was low in that banding was easily seen in browns. It is obviously better than the Sony FX820 in hand. Of the bunch, I'd go for that one. Next test is to bring in my Sony EX1 for a test drive in the store.

The major trouble with buying a 10.2" portable DVD is that the 15" 720p and 1600x1050 LCD TVs with component inputs were in the next aisle selling for the same price. I know, I know, they're not portable as they require AC power. Hmmm. Perhaps one of the smaller Uninterruptible Power Supplies for $75 would do.

I got the 2 cables in today. They put a stereo 3.5mm plug on the ends vs the mono as stated on site, BUT it works. I plugged into LCD and works fine. They also didn't do the right angle plugs, but for ~$8 what can I expect?

FYI. The LG unit that I bought was a discontinued model. It was the DP781. It was the display model. It is going back. Why? Not because it is bad. But because I verified that I viewed the Sony 810 in Best Buy which looked bad and swayed me away from Sony. They have the 820 in stock, and although I cannot see the screen in the box, I trust that it is every bit as good as the LG.

To add to this, the LG being a sample model didn't have the remote, battery unit or car charger either. It was discounted, but by the time I rig up stuff for all those extras I can just buy the Sony straight up.

Thanks all.

Jerome, funny you mentioned this. I got mine today as well... opened it up, saw the stereo plug... and went "Dayumm idgits"! But... as you said, it still works :D

The Sony 820 looks about the same as the 810. I wish I could have compared the LG, but it appeared to be broken and wouldn't read any of the DVDs. However, the default screen just didn't look that much better than the 810 on display. The Insignia 10.2" looks better than 80 or 820. For testing, I would bring along a few copies of the same DVD with a decent menu so you can compare same image.

While I like the convenience of a small portable DVD player, the image quality just isn't there. Yes, it is easier to focus in full view mode with these 8" displays than using the camcorder LCD. However, the Expanded view mode on the camcorder LCD beats the display on the DVD player. my particular camcorder (Sony EX1) doesn't output the Expanded view over composite, so I'm left longing for a monitor that accepts component inputs. The next investigation IS the smaller 15-20" LCD TVs in the $300-500 price range.

I don´t understand why anyone would chose this one over the lilliput lcd? It´s the same price but you can use both component and shoe adapter and it has a better screen as far as I know.

http://www.lilliputweb.net/ts619.html

Or am I missing something here? :)

This looks good. I only see RCA input in the specs, and the pictures of the cables are for composite video. The primary advantage of the portable DVD players is that they are battery operated and can run several hours. If you're running on A/C, you might as well get a 15" LCD TV with component input and as close to 1080p as as you can get.

I did a side-by-side comparison of various portable DVD players at Fry's Electronics with three copies of the same DVD, leaving the disk in a motion menu. I wish the Memorex 10" and LG 8" were there. The battery life for the 10" units is often listed at 2 hours some of the 8" (Sony FX820) run for six hours, probably with DVD.

Best looking:
Philips PET1030 10" $279 sharpest of them all. Metal edge was hot.

Runner ups:
Sony DVP-FX820 8.5" $179 sharpest of 8" group, but not as good as Philips
Coby 10" DVD1020 $199 soft (may not allow 4:3 mode?)
AudioVox 10" D201 $399, very soft, most shadow noise

Resolution appears to be much less than 800x480. Are these 800x234 ? The vertical resolution was the limiting factor.
Sony DVP-FX810 $149 horrible
Panasonic DVD-LS82 $179 horrible
Panasonic DVD-LS86 $199 Horrible
Toshiba 9" (missed model#) horrible

A component to VGA converter is needed such as the Mayflash unit, but you would have to rig up some kind of battery supply for it to be portable instead of using the AC adapter. Since 6V is all it needs, 4 AA's could be wired in series. Just need a battery holder for the AA's.

This combo would probably look really noticeably nicer though considering the Mayflash upscales through the VGA out. Lilliput should make a black unit (Silver does noting for me :) ... with a red stripe around the sides... match a Canon lens :D

I got the Sony 820 and returned the LG 781 which was a floor model anyway. I haven't had a serious chance to test it with camera but I did watch a DVD on it and I can say without a doubt that it is far superior to the Sony 810. However, it may not be quite as good as the LG was. It seems a tiny bit more washed out and oddly the viewing angles are weird.

I find the image to look its best when you tilt the screen slightly forward. In other words, when looking at it straight on with the screen at a 90 degree angle to your eyes it looks a tad dark. Tipping it forward ever so slightly brightens the image and it really pops! I can continue to tip it and the image does not get worse like you typically see with an LCD viewed off angle. However if I tip it backward from the 90 degree angle it quickly disintegrates into a reverse image and it is hard to make out anything. I do not remember the LG having this issue at all.

Regardless, the Sony is my choice as I got it at Circuit City in a package with a case, headphones and a 15% OFF COUPON that brought it to around $160 with tax. I had paid $129 for the LG with nothing but the unit and a power cord. With the Sony I get the 5-6 hour battery, a remote, cables including a card adapter and the other bonuses. Heck, the carrying case from CC even includes a car mounting kit. When not in use for video production I may occassionally use this for my daughter to watch movies on long trips in the car!

Peace all!

Yes you need the MayFlash but that´s just an extra 50$. Then get one Tekkeon battery and you are good to go. :) I know a lot of people using this setup. Belive me this a way better solution.

The monitor is actually black but comes in silver also.

You can buy it here : http://cgi.ebay.com/LILLIPUT-7-619GL...QQcmdZViewItem

"Color of housing: BLACK COLOR ONLY."

I'd believe it. The video sharpness of the portable DVD players seems limited mostly by video processing. The single color video overlays on the Sony FX820 are crisp, but the video (LineIn or DVD) is not.

I like the Mayflash box. Is there an affordable component->DVI box?

Also, is it possible to adjust this monitor to greyscale? I like that option on the portable DVD players, which is possible by reducing the color parameter.

hey guys would you suggest me buying the Sony 820 and turning it over, or buying a microX so i can continue on using the built in monitor? Im on a Canon A1 with a redrock thanks =D

All of the 7" pro monitors I have seen have the same 800x480 resolution.
The only difference is HD input capability but since this is only SD resolution it shouldn't make much difference.
It is a question of scaling in the camera or monitor. For PAL it will be both.
Component input would be a bit better but at this price compared to a pro monitor who is complaining.
I have often looked at portable and car players and wondered how they would work. Some even have a detachable second monitor.
Thanks for the tip.
Malcolm

Anyone want to share their mounting solutions? The sony FX811 works great for me btw.

There is something going on with video deinterlacing. The LCD displays shows the green overlay text (say, "Line In") with perfect sharpness, but DVD played from the internal DVD player look mushy.

I don't get that at all on mine. I've yet to see a DVD that wasn't sharp... video or text.

Hmmm. Every Sony FX820 I've seen has soft DVD video when compared to the bright green overlay text that is seen when you switch to the Video Input. I think we have differences in what we call Sharp. I'm not surprised that composite video input is not sharp, but I would expect the DVDs to be sharper.

Mounting options
 

For mounting hardware you might want to take a look at Ram Mount systems http://ram-mount.com - they have a large number of components you can put together to mount all kinds of equipment. They probably have a clamp component that could be mated with a ball & socket mount, etc.

Does anyone have a good and stable idea to attach it to the tripod or camera?
I still want to use it sometimes to film protests, so It should be "movable"
Does anyone have ideas?




PS: I am new here, I hope I can learn from this board and it topics.

While in Japan, I saw a 12" LCD on a portable DVD player in the Shinjuku district. As I was hurrying by with my wife, I had no opportunity to write down the maker and model.

Can someone tell what cable I need? I read composite, but I am not that good in english. Can someone make a picture or show a picture of that cable? Or give a name of it?

To connect the DVD player with my camera (it does have component out)

looks to me like the fx820 only has a composite video input in the form of a female miniplug jack.

So, assuming that your camera has a composite output, the cable would look something like this:
http://www.microsoft.com/library/med...U_SurSnd04.jpg

It really helps to read all threads. This has been covered already.

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showpost....9&postcount=90

then again Daniel doesn't mention what camera he has :)

Here is an interesting 1280x768 7" LCD kit posted in a thread on dpreview.com . The interesting part is that the ability to mount the LCD with a long tether to the main board. I could see the LCD on a very thin jib arm while the rest of the package would sit in the back of a shoulder mount brace such as the Vortex. I wonder how sturdy the LCD. The remote control is interesting. I wonder if there is any support for zooming.

7" LCD at 1280x768
http://www.manhattanlcd.com/ProductD...Show=TechSpecs

10.9" Toshiba 1366x768
http://www.manhattanlcd.com/ProductD...oductCode=1001

15.4" Samsung at 1900x1200
(1900 probably a typo as specs say it supports 1920x1080)
http://www.manhattanlcd.com/ProductD...oductCode=1004

Nice design. I finally shot an event, an hour+ concert at my church
using the Sony DVD player as monitor. What a difference from using
either the camcorder LCD or laptop screen! I am not going back!

I think it's time I made this mounting option happen TODAY.

There are other kits that cost a little less. I'd prefer something a little less than 15" for 1920x1080. Does anyone know which scalers I should look for on the board? I'm wondering if a 12" 1280x768 would work better, but I'm worried about the scaling from 1920x1080p.

new HD monitor
 

I just pre-ordered this monitor:

Manhattan LCD

Some of the numbers are typos, but it appears to be his 10.9" Toshiba LCD kit with a custom case. HDMI/component input, 1366x768. 1.5 lbs for under $600. If this dream feature set/price could be improved upon, it would only be to deliver 1080p with a 2x, 4x localized zooming function similar to what you see on a D3/D300/D700/D90 Nikon DSLR.

Nice find, Gints. Love to hear your evaluation once you get it.

Gints, I'd be interested in your opinion as well.

I do however wonder how straight up a company is that only shows an email address for contact info :-\

Yes, this is a bit of a gamble. However, the Manhattan LCD fellow did reply to my questions promptly. I get the feel that it's a one man operation, and that man has a limited command of English judging from the email we've exchanged. He's doing something special, and it's a hard opportunity to pass up.

He's probably legit. It's just an observation of mine :) I do wonder where the location is, and I assume NY, but could also be Manhattan Beach Ca, which I'd just run down there to demo this unit before an order if it was :)

I noticed some incorrect grammar on the site, so you're probably right.

Again, good luck & let us all know the results.

*edit* Upon looking at the "terms & conditions" (I was looking for the return policy the FAQ's directs to, but there's nothing other than NO REFUNDS), it looks as if they do biz in the state of Calif., (in Miscellaneous) so he very well may be somewhere local.